View Full Version : Opinion of Turbo SNG's on Pstars?
LokiV
09-12-2004, 03:53 AM
Are these things just card catching luck fests since the blinds are 75/150 by the time 20 hands have been dealt?
Thoughts, opinions. Discuss!
I used to play them but then learned to despise them. I don't understand why I ever liked the 18 person ones.
Phill S
09-12-2004, 06:30 AM
i used to play them a lot. i dotn think the blinds were a huge amount different a party style system where the blinds raise every ten hands.
it will be faster at the start, but as players get fewer, it will probably be a slower system (you can get through much more than ten hands in 5 min when 4/5 handed).
now ive started playing in a format where the blinds go up every 5 hands, now that is manic. but i still think it can be broken (ive shown short term positive return).
for further info, you can search the forum, its been covered a few times. but thats my opinion.
Phill
mackthefork
09-12-2004, 06:36 AM
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Are these things just card catching luck fests since the blinds are 75/150 by the time 20 hands have been dealt?
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Not exactly, they are good fun and definitely as beatable as party sngs, players are tighter than party players (at low levels where i play). I just avoid getting involved early unless i have a good hand or a possiblity to take a huge pot down (PPs for set value), and later being very aggresive with hands like 99-QQ and AK AQ works well, you often get action from worse hands, and if you don't the blinds can be a good consolation as they get very large.
Regards Mack
Stoneii
09-12-2004, 09:45 AM
I think the 1-table is ok and have done quite well but agree the two table is a no-no for me, blinds get far too high if you don't hit cards early and there's absolutely no room to play.
They appeal when I've less time for the >1.25 hour ordinary SnG's on stars (and I'm crap at multitabling)
stoneii
ukgazz
09-12-2004, 12:07 PM
They are most definately beatable.
I spend most of my time at the moment at the $55+5 with the odd $105+9. To be honest I prefer the structure of the standard ones more but my results fell when they opened these. After quite a bit of analysis I decided that a lot of teh people I would like to play against had moved to the turbos.....
My roi is now the same on the turbos as it was on the standard 50's but I can get twice as many in per hour....
UKgazz
chill888
09-12-2004, 12:35 PM
.....and my roi on the non-turbos went up as i no longer play against ukgazz since he became a turbo whore.
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LinusKS
09-12-2004, 12:51 PM
The PS turbos are better than the PP games - the amount of time they take is about the same, but the luck/skill ratio is better, because you're starting off with almost twice as many chips.
Plus, the maniacs/LAGS are making a bigger mistake by going all-in early, since the blinds/stack ratio is smaller - and there are fewer of them there (perhaps as a result).
And the "playing zone" lasts longer, IMO - the time after the blinds become worth playing for, but before it becomes a total crapshoot.
Finally, the PS turbos are cheaper than the PP games.
ukgazz
09-12-2004, 12:51 PM
lol I did see you venturing to the dark side of the turbos once /images/graemlins/wink.gif
LokiV
09-12-2004, 04:13 PM
The sum up my venturing back into a (very very low limit!) turbo last night.. I saw many MANY hands of ace/6 os against the dreaded... ace/8 os! And I laughed my way into first place.
Maybe I'll give them a try now that I feel myself a better disciplined and more aggressive player.
Thanks guys.
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