Turning Stone Casino Sat Tournament

[ZManODS]

Please review my play of this hand.
Out of about 140 players there are about 70 left.
I have around 9,000 in chips which is a little better than average.
Blinds are 150-300

I get dealt 99 in mp. Everyone folds to me and i raise to 800. I do not want to get to commited right now with this hand so i make a minor raise. I only get called by the chip leader who is to my immediate left.

Flop: 952 (5 and 2 being hearts, me having none)
I bet 1200 and get called.

Turn: (952) 6 (Now 3 hearts are on the board)
I go all in and get called.


Please comment on my horrible play in this hand.

[Chief911]

You hit your top set, and are WAY ahead on the flop. You see 2 hearts. You are up against the chip leader.

Yet you only bet 1200 into a pot of close to 2000. He is getting 4 to 1 odds to call, which is perfect for his draw, and he can afford to draw because 1) He is chip leader and its not killing his stack, and 2) his implied odds if he hits are HUGE because he knows when you are betting that much into the pot you are likely to give him a ot of chips.

Here I dont want to give ANYONE a chance to hit their hearts on me. I think I push this on the flop and happily take my 2k pot, or I overbet the pot, again not giving someone proper odds to go after their flush draw (If they have one).

Finally, if I would have given him proper odds to chase as you did with only betting 1200, there's no way I'd try to make up for a mistake by pushing against someone who is probably 50/50 drawn to their flush, or holding two overcards. I think you probably knew you made a mistake the second you saw the 3rd heart.

Nick

[GrinningBuddha]

Your bet on the flop gives him 2.7-1 odds to draw, if he is even drawing at all. With one opponent, it's silly to immediately put him on a flush draw if he calls. He could be calling with anything from A9 to AK to an underset or even a gutshot (you didn't describe him, so we can't tell).

However, once the heart hits on the turn and you bet double the pot, what's going to call you except a hand that beats you? While you have outs to a win if you are called by a flush or a straight, this seems rather hasty.

I hate that turn card as much as you, but I would make my standard bet unless I get some sort of read on him. With a pot of 4450 and a stack of about 7,000, I'd bet around 2,000 here. If he goes all-in, you have a choice to make. If he calls again, you have another choice to make. This hand really requires some knowledge of your opponent. Without any read on him, you are shooting in the dark here.

While I might go about it differently, I'd probably end up broke to a flush on this hand as well. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[MLG]

I think you are wrong here. 1st betting 1200 into a 2000 pot does not give your opponent 4:1 odds, it gives him slightly worse than 3:1 odds (calling 1200 for 3200). There is nothing wrong with this sized bets. If you are betting really big to scare away possible draws when you have such a powerful hand then you are losing a lot of equity. In my opinion preflop, and flop are fine.

On the turn is where the mistake is. You have 7000 chips left and the pot is roughly 4400. If you push here the only hand that is going to call you beats you. Personally I would check-raise all-in here. He could have any number of hands to call you on the flop, and if you check the turn he might bet with any of them in an attempt to pick up the pot. A hand like A-9, or 9-10 or overcards is a distinct possibility and you will get money out of them if you check the turn to them. Another way to go might be betting 2000 or so at them. You are probably not pot-committed if they go all-in, but you would have to have a tremendous read to justify laying the hand down, to your opponents all-in. Incidently you say your opponent has a big stack, but you don't say how big and that would be important to know in making these decisions.

[MLG]

I probably should have read your response before i posted mine, well said buddha.

[ZManODS]

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However, once the heart hits on the turn and you bet double the pot, what's going to call you except a hand that beats you?

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I understand what you are saying but in the heat of the battle i put him on an overpair. Ive seen him just smoothcall with some high PP's. I was honestly just going to release my hand if i didnt improve even if the flop came all undercards. Like i said i really didnt want to get too involved unless i improved. My all in was tring to accomplish 2 things, 1 double up if he had an overpair as he would most certainly call and 2, protect my hand if he has nothing but a high heart.

With the amount of people left in the tournament, i was more concerned with getting a decent sized chip stack so i played this a little too aggressive with the hopes of doubling up.

As it turns out oppenent had A /images/graemlins/heart.gif K /images/graemlins/heart.gif
Boo!

[MLG]

If you put him on an overpair you should have checked-called the flop.

[GrinningBuddha]

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My all in was tring to accomplish 2 things, 1 double up if he had an overpair as he would most certainly call and 2, protect my hand if he has nothing but a high heart.


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If has nothing but a high heart, how likely is it that he called your flop bet? If he has A /images/graemlins/heart.gif Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif, do you think he's going to chase on the off chance one of them might be good? We need to narrow our range of hands once he calls your flop bet. AA and KK are unlikely unless he's a big calling station. A scared QQ is possible, as is an underset. Maybe TT and he has you on overcards. I just can't see AKo or AQo calling this flop unless he's really bad. A /images/graemlins/heart.gif x /images/graemlins/heart.gif is another possibility too, perhaps even AJs.

Given that you are way in front of all but one of these holdings, do you see why I think that all-in is unnecessary? Why not make a normal bet, and if a heart hits on the river, you can save some chips to fight on with in another hand?

[ZManODS]

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Given that you are way in front of all but one of these holdings, do you see why I think that all-in is unnecessary? Why not make a normal bet, and if a heart hits on the river, you can save some chips to fight on with in another hand?


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Yea, an all in was very unnecessary. My only hope would have been if he had an overpair.

[GrinningBuddha]

Don't feel too bad, it's hard to put someone on a hand in the heat of the moment. Like I said before, I very likely would have gone bust on this hand too. /images/graemlins/smile.gif