I just have to post this because it's so FUNNY (and typical)

[junkmail3]

You can comment on my check raise on the flop, but the funniest part is the Cold call. I'll post results, because it doesn't much matter.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $4.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) folds, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.66 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (7.33 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

River: (7.33 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 7.33 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 7.33 BB, between Hero, MP2 and CO.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (7.33 BB).</font>

Hero has 3s Ks (one pair, threes).
MP2 has 3h 9h (one pair, threes).
CO has Kc Ac (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins 7.33 BB.

[cab4656]

Can I comment on your pre-flop call? It's bad. Real bad.

[sthief09]

your limp is almost as bad as his cold call. you played this hand very poorly. instead of concentrating on how bad others play, you should try to get better yourself

[junkmail3]

Well, don't I just look like an idiot now ...

I guess that was a pretty bad pfre flop call, wow.

[sthief09]

check raising the flop with bottom pair, then checking the turn sucks, too

[challenger84]

I think I like MP3's play the best here.

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MP3 (poster) folds

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The ol' post/fold

[bdk3clash]

Man, you'd think you'd pick a hand you didn't play donktastically for a look-how-bad-my-opponent-was post, which is doomed to suck anyway.

[mikeyvegas]

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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $4.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls...

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Yeah, you're right...it's so FUNNY!

[Sarge85]

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play donktastically

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Now THATS funny.

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[bdk3clash]

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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $4.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls...

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Yeah, you're right...it's so FUNNY!

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Hey, I laughed.

[MicroBob]

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donktastically

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My new favorite word.

[junkmail3]

Okay, since we're all having such a great time with my mistakes, could we just answer one question?

Would you call this hand in my position if all three had called and not folded?

[JDErickson]

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Okay, since we're all having such a great time with my mistakes, could we just answer one question?

Would you call this hand in my position if all three had called and not folded?

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No

[junkmail3]

Why not?

[junkmail3]

What about with ... A2s?

[mikeyvegas]

I used to never play K-xs (x&lt;9) unless I was in the sb or BB. The only time I have been playing it out of the blinds now is in the CO or on the Button in a loose/passive pf(6-8 to the flop for 1 bet) game per SSHE.

[junkmail3]

Okay, cool. Maybe I should stop replying and asking questions, so this post disappears ...

[sthief09]

K2s &gt;&gt;&gt; A2s because a pair of aces are a lot better than a pair of kings

[MoreWineII]

x2. This isn't a hand you should be playing from middle position. I might toss A-2s here depending on the table texture.

[MicroBob]

I would possible call from MP with Kxs with 3 limpers in already. And definitely with Axs.


But open-calling with this with zero limpers from MP is pretty terrible.

[Fnord]

MPish unopened with a poster is raise or fold territory for me. Although I *might* limp a baby PP here, but in that case I want garbage hands around to pay me off.

[MicroBob]

i think it should be

K2s &lt;&lt;&lt; A2s

[JDErickson]

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Why not?

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Its just too iffy a hand. I only play Kxs in the blinds or maybe the button in a very loose passive game.

A2s I will play anywhere in a loose passive game. If there is a chance to be raised behind me I will dump A2s also.

Jim

[MicroBob]

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MPish unopened with a poster is raise or fold territory for me. Although I *might* limp a baby PP here, but in that case I want garbage hands around to pay me off.

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Completely agree.
There isn't much you should be open-limping with here imo.

I would possibly limp the low PP too...but that's about it.

If you're going to open from MP you should be in a situation where you are happy to be raising it up.

[JDErickson]

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Okay, cool. Maybe I should stop replying and asking questions, so this post disappears ...

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If you think this is bad, you should have seen my first posts /images/graemlins/smile.gif

You just learned a valuable lesson. We all learned it at one time or another.

[cold_cash]

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But open-calling with this with zero limpers from MP is pretty terrible.

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Sure, it's terrible.

Now for the the real question: Is it donktastic? You make the call.

[Bigdaddydvo]

From "Winner's Guide to Texas Hold Em" by Ken Warren

About any two random suited cards (such as Q5h) it "is a favorite of a lot of low limit players and is a hand you should encourage them to play. You will never have the right odds to play the hand for any reason and it is a big loser. If you are a good player, this is the type of hand your opponents will be holding when you beat them. Your job is to smile, drag the pot, and say 'Nice Hand' "

Preach on , Mr. Warren

[InchoateHand]

Someday...probably say, six months from now, you will be dispensing sage advice, a regular and well respected online player, crushing 3/6--5/10. At that point, one of your friends will do a forum search, find this thread and top it. Just because.

[junkmail3]

That's what I was afraid of ... haha.

[JinX11]

I hope you played this hand for advertising value.... I bet you got a lot of action after this.

[MrHorace]

Mike,
thanks for the great guidelines here! I've been pondering this around in my head, after playing a K5s recently, and your answer answers the questions I had, and gives me direction on how to play this correctly.

[MrHorace]

JD,
Thanks for giving us newbies the inspiration to put our butts on the line, not mentioning pride, ego, etc., and post away. Junk took a lot of junk from this post, but I learned a lot about some things I've been struggling with myself.

Monster pairs, and AKs etc are more straight-forward to play than the more difficult, questionable hands. It's good to know, without question, what shouldn't be played.

[Michael Davis]

By far the funniest part about this thread is that you are probably a losing money player who is making a post making fun of other losing money players.

-Michael

[Alobar]

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Its just too iffy a hand. I only play Kxs in the blinds or maybe the button in a very loose passive game.


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I wouldnt get that carried away. If you are in LP and there are 4 limpers its a pretty easy limp IMO. There is also a big diff between like K3s and K8s. Ill play K8s from LP with only 3 limpers as long as im fairly sure it wont be raised behind me.

[TheHip41]

Fold preflop, c/fold the flop, fold the turn, fold the river

[TheHip41]

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Would you call this hand in my position if all three had called and not folded?

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K-trash suited is trash no matter how many people limp in front of you.

[TheHip41]

The donkeyastic players don't get irony