Anyone Believe this? THE BOILER ROOM

[JAque]

The self proclaimed scam bag/cheater/colluder /rat...etc

may be he is telling the truth --> Boiler room (http://tinyurl.com/5ly2n)


I am assuming by some of his posts that he is targetting the 10-20 ; 15-30 and 30-60 ring games at the major sites. He personally plays some of the short handed 100-200 games (hit an run approach)

JAque

[itsmarty]

Except for the flat screens, that looks like my college apartment. They could be colluding or just getting an epic game of NetTrek going....it's very hard to tell from a photo if something's illegal or just the result of a critical mass of nerds.

Martin

[chrisdhal]

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epic game of NetTrek

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Oh man, does that bring back memories of long wasted nights back in college. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[namknils]

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The self proclaimed scam bag/cheater/colluder /rat...etc

may be he is telling the truth --> Boiler room (http://tinyurl.com/5ly2n)


I am assuming by some of his posts that he is targetting the 10-20 ; 15-30 and 30-60 ring games at the major sites. He personally plays some of the short handed 100-200 games (hit an run approach)

JAque

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Maybe everyone else knows who you are talking about, but could you fill me in? Who is he ?

[dogmeat]

I read some of the website - and can't believe much of what's there. Aside from the fact that several of the pages have eight or ten paragraphs of him rambling and not giving any facts, I found two items to be silly.

The first is where he tells us that he took a small room from a single table of $20/$40 to 17 tables of $20/$40 by bringing in his own cheating players (wow, that would sure bring in a lot of new players to a club, getting cheated everytime they came in).

The second item, which I have read elsewhere always makes me laugh. He explains that the best way to play the Sit-n-go tournaments is to just push the button for "automuck/sitting out and not play until there are only 6 players left. Well, IMHO - it makes no sense to refuse to even look at the hands you get in the first 20 minutes. While I have no problem with someone who wants to play very tight for the first few rounds, sometimes that happens to be when you get your hands. It dosen't make much sense to simply sit out for twenty minutes and then go all-in with your first decent hand, as he suggests.

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[B00T]

ROFL

If he is making 65k a day or whatever ridiculous number he claims, you would think he could afford or use better computers than EMachines.

[Header]

I use an E machine and its just fine I do need a new monitor for multi tabling though any recommendations ?

[Paluka]

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The self proclaimed scam bag/cheater/colluder /rat...etc

may be he is telling the truth --> Boiler room (http://tinyurl.com/5ly2n)


I am assuming by some of his posts that he is targetting the 10-20 ; 15-30 and 30-60 ring games at the major sites. He personally plays some of the short handed 100-200 games (hit an run approach)

JAque

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I just wanted to point out that it makes zero sense to collude in a game like partypoker 15/30. Most good players play many tables at once. They play anywhere from 4-8 15-30s at a time. It takes some effort to collude profitably in a game like 15/30, and you would always just be better off playing more tables. In a different game, such as the pokerstars 100-200, collusion makes a lot more sense.

[ilya]

Isn't this the cheating tapes guy?

A lot of the claims he makes about live games in California and Nevada seem pretty plausible to me. He certainly looks like a skeezy mofo himself, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's a cheater like he says.

But yeah, he's not one for specifics.

[GrannyMae]

A lot of the claims he makes about live games in California and Nevada seem pretty plausible to me

his claims that colluding happened in live games can't be argued. his claims that doyle and friends are all cheats and contract murderers is where he passed the senility line.

i'm certain that russ is colluding in his rat's nest in seattle, but this 'boiler room' is no threat to a savvy player. he posted that pic to try and recruit students for his 10k, 28 day cheating course.

there is not any guarantee that these are even his emachines. the one filthy torn chair is an indication of how well he is funded.

here is some funny stuff. o'malley posted other "boiler rooms".

http://www.rzitup.com/boilerrooms.htm

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/c0/biggrinroll.gif

[Sponger15SB]

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http://www.rzitup.com/boiler%20room%20(2).jpg

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who spends the money on 6 monitors and then still uses a keyboard from the 1980's?

[GrannyMae]

i want to know where to get one of them alien looking things the guy has on his chair headrest in this one

http://www.rzitup.com/boiler%20room%20(4).jpg

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/v/spidereek.gif

[B00T]

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I use an E machine and its just fine I do need a new monitor for multi tabling though any recommendations ?

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For multi-tabling, get a monitor (and a video card) capable of supporting 1600 x 1200 resolution. You will be able to view 4 tables at once with no overlap.

[neotope]

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who spends the money on 6 monitors and then still uses a keyboard from the 1980's?

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A lot of computer savvy people really like those old style keyboards. I know a couple programmers who only use old keyboards.

[ilya]

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here is some funny stuff. o'malley posted other "boiler rooms".

http://www.rzitup.com/boilerrooms.htm

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/c0/biggrinroll.gif

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Of course Randy's is the best.

[JAque]

Search NewCGA in RPG .. be carefull 1,000,0000 and counting /images/graemlins/smile.gif

JAque

[TylerD]

He may be a nutcase but his strategy posts are very good, especially on Omaha8, look them up if you don't believe me.

[JAque]

I concur. He does not have the math background but a lot of his poker theory threads are worth reading. Many of the pros he accused of cheating replied to him to defend themselves but I can't recall any that said he was not as good as he claimed to be.

JAque

[krazyace5]

He can'y even afford chairs? One is a cooler with a chair cushion on it.

[Frozen]

Online o8 just isn't worth the risk.

[TimM]

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ROFL

If he is making 65k a day or whatever ridiculous number he claims, you would think he could afford or use better computers than EMachines.

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And an air conditioner instead of a box fan.

[jerome baker]

i believe the bulk of russ's games are 215 nl sng party.

[jerome baker]

no way he makes 65k a day. probably more like 3k (thats a low estimate).

who cares about better computers? he's not a programmer or a hacker.

[CheckRaise]

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i want to know where to get one of them alien looking things the guy has on his chair headrest in this one

http://www.rzitup.com/boiler%20room%20(4).jpg
http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/v/spidereek.gif

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It is a face hugger from the Alien movie franchise

[Piers]

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The self proclaimed scam bag/cheater/colluder /rat...etc

may be he is telling the truth --> Boiler room (http://tinyurl.com/5ly2n)


I am assuming by some of his posts that he is targetting the 10-20 ; 15-30 and 30-60 ring games at the major sites. He personally plays some of the short handed 100-200 games (hit an run approach)

JAque

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I just wanted to point out that it makes zero sense to collude in a game like partypoker 15/30. Most good players play many tables at once. They play anywhere from 4-8 15-30s at a time. It takes some effort to collude profitably in a game like 15/30, and you would always just be better off playing more tables. In a different game, such as the pokerstars 100-200, collusion makes a lot more sense.

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It only makes sense to cheat if you get positive utility from the act of cheating itself or if money you have cheated off someone gives twice as much utility to you as money you have earned honestly. In this case cheating might work out better then just improving you game selection and playing more games at once.

Oh! And all those computers and monitors are neither necessary or sufficient for cheating. I think they are just there to show the world what a prat he is.

[Piers]

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no way he makes 65k a day. probably more like 3k (thats a low estimate).

who cares about better computers? he's not a programmer or a hacker.

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no way he makes 65k a day. probably more like 3k (thats a low estimate).

who cares about better computers? he's not a programmer or a hacker.

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It is entirely possible that he is earning about 3K a day and once made 65K in a day. A good but not necessarily great player with the bankroll to play multiple 100/200 or similar games could easily achieve that. If this is so then Russ is making his money despite his cheating not because of it.

And the point about him not being a hacker is well made /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Saint_D]

I have no idea what the possible use of setup like that would be. As a ex-computer lab manager, I can tell you thier setup basically sucks for any use you would care to put to it.

The only possible useful thing you could do with that bench is test out new computers that you are planning on selling.

If they really are using this space to play poker, they really aught to invest some money back into something more ergonomic. For heaven's sake, at least get an Aeron chair!

Oh, and that second picture with the G in the corner, I recognize. It' from www.gamespot.com (http://www.gamespot.com) someplace. I think it might be a picture of the office where they made Dungeon Seige or some other video game.
-Saint_D

[GrannyMae]

Oh, and that second picture with the G in the corner

i think only one of those are actual pics of poker set-ups. i think it is the one that says top secret. the rest were parodies (obviously). the title 'top secret' is the indication that that is the legit one from o'malley's site.

[Piers]

I remember we had a bench of PC very similar to "Russ'". We use to use if for testing variouis versons of our software before passing it on to QA or UAT.

[xJUNIORx]

this RUSS G is a new staff writer at live action poker magazine.His articles are about scams and hustles in the gaming world and how to avoid them.