instantaneous cash-ins

[GrannyMae]

i started affiliating for nostalgia casino. they have instant cash-ins (ZERO wager req. btw, so it gets played differently if you try it. there is strategy at bw.com for this casino)

anyhoo, why can't poker sites do this? they take instantly, then make you wait 24 hours at best, sometimes a week.

i think intant cash-ins for poker are long overdue, and the technology has been here a while.

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[Sponger15SB]

Chip Dumping.

I break into somebodys account, dump $15,000 and then my friend instantly cashes out.

[Just The Facts]

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(ZERO wager req. btw, so it gets played differently if you try it. there is strategy at bw.com for this casino)



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What does this mean when you say played differently? All I found at Bonuswhores was a post about you playing one hand or something and getting a 3 minute cashout, and a post by LazyMeatball about winning a Grand. Then there is someone who won $1,200 on Martingale?

I don't see strategy, and Martingale can't be it. Is it just bigger bets because of the no Wager Requirement? Facts please Dearest Grannie.

[GrannyMae]

Chip Dumping.

D'OH. i get a common sense reply from a sponge sitting on a toilet. good point

i still think they could do it much, much faster.

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[GrannyMae]

What does this mean when you say played differently?

it is indeed bigger bets. meatball won 1200, but then misread the NETeller instant cashout to think it was like insta-cash and had a fee.

i have played there 2 times, and won both times, the first was just one hand because i did not believe the zero WR, and i did not believe the instant payout part. both are true. the second time i played, i played for only 15 minutes and cashed out +150. NOT having a WR is sweeeeet. they were also voted best new casino of 2003. all these unique things is why i got involved with them.

the instant cashout is very cool. you close the client, and POOF, it is in your NETeller. no charges for this.

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[Lazymeatball]

Follow-up:
I deposited $300 into Nostalgia and received a 100% non withdrawable bonus of $300. So I took my $600 and went to bet it all on baccarat, then realized the max bet is $500, so I bet $500 on banker and won for a profit of $475. So I now had a balance of $1075 and went to withdraw.

For some reason I was an idiot and tried NETELLER Manual Approval, and nothing happend for a a few days until I got an email asking me to fax a copy of my drivers license.

So for the record, I deposited $300, got a $300 bonus that can't be withdrawn, won $475, to get a total balance of $1075, of which $775 should be available for cashout.


Further Follow-up:
So I just logged into Nostalgia, and saw that since my withdrawal hadn't gone through, they put my balance back into my account. I tried to withdraw it again using "NETeller" instead of "Manual Approved NETeller."
5-10 minutes later the deposit was in my NETeller account. All is good.


Remember kids, if you are going to bet your deposit and bonus on one hand, only deposit $250 as the max bet is $500 on just about everything.

[GrannyMae]

So I took my $600 and went to bet it all on baccarat, then realized the max bet is $500, so I bet $500 on banker and won for a profit of $475. So I now had a balance of $1075 and went to withdraw.

man! your balls are bigger than your hair!!

nice to have no WR tho, huh? still a nice score. also, this casino sends reload offers every few weeks, all with same zero WR. so, if you play again, make sure to use the instant cash-in option.

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[Synergistic Explosions]

GM, I can't find your link to this site. Could you post it here? I want to bet 250 on one hand also. Do they have $50 five play video poker?

[Drunk Bob]

So I guess this bonus is sticky.

I saw somewhere that the plan for a big sticky bonus is to bet all on the first hand and then I am not sure what to do if you win.

I guess it is to deal with a pissed off Casino that really doesn't want to pay off.


Shame on you Granny.

[GrannyMae]

I saw somewhere that the plan for a big sticky bonus is to bet all on the first hand and then I am not sure what to do if you win.

i don't think this is true with a no WR casino, but it very well could be. i guess i should have figured it out before i placed the banner here, but i figured most blackjack and baccarat players would not take my advice anyway since i don't know what the fuk i am talking about. i also placed it because i think this is the best concept i have seen regarding the cash-ins and lack of restrictions.

the zero WR changes everything probably. i'm not an expert at the best way to play this, cuz i just did slots and VP like normal. i know that there is a definite strategy, but it differs from all other casinos that have the WR.

synergistic, i have a banner here on the right for Nostalgia. if you hit reload a few times it will appear. i don't wanna place my link direct in a post, as that probably crosses the line. i guess i can PM it to you tho since you asked. if you play there, please give us a trip report and GL. don't forget that the instant cash-in is NOT insta-cash. there is no $50 five play, but they have $1 52 play and 100 play. i think a $1, 100 play would be a $500 hand of VP, no?

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[GrannyMae]

I guess it is to deal with a pissed off Casino that really doesn't want to pay off.

i glazed right over this bob. this place certainly DOES pay. that is why i keep harping on the insta-pay thing. there is no time for them to stiff you, even if they wanted.

[dogmeat]

This is a serious overlay - hard to pass up. I had $200 in my Neteller account, so I transfered it. Had to take a look at the Video Poker (looks like cirrus - and sucks), but anyway, took most of it to the baccarat table - bet it on banker, paid the commission and made $230. Nice deal if you hit! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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[GrannyMae]

This is a serious overlay

precisely the beauty of this place.

out of curiosity, why baccarat? is the HA on BJ in this place higher than it should be? nice score

[dogmeat]

Thank you for the post, Granny. Free money for the Dog! The odds on Bac and Bj are very close. At BJ I could have caught a blackjack and made even more, but my luck there has been terrible lately - so bac comes next.

On this you just have to make the single bet - great overlay.

Best,

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[GrannyMae]

At BJ I could have caught a blackjack and made even more

know what? you could also have been faced with a doubling situation, and when you do not double, the house advantage goes up.
(i figured that out on my own, btw.. woooo)

[skunkworks]

The house edge for banker in baccarat is less than the edge of one hand of blackjack with no splits and double downs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's also better than betting red/black in roulette which is why it's recommended to play baccarat with those type of sticky bonuses.

The Golden Palace stickies don't allow baccarat, however. That's why I had to play three $300 hands of blackjack. Now that was a freaking rush (I won 1).

[dogmeat]

You are absolutely right! Anyway - my "instantaneous" transfer was into Neteller in about 5 minutes. Very nice!

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[Synergistic Explosions]

I clicked your banner Granny. It shows a 50% match bonus now. Did they just lower it?

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synergistic, i have a banner here on the right for Nostalgia. if you hit reload a few times it will appear. i don't wanna place my link direct in a post, as that probably crosses the line. i guess i can PM it to you tho since you asked.
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Why? He asked specificly for your link. Don't be so high and mighty or dumb.

GRANNIE LINK: Place in your favourites!

http://www.nostalgiacasinos.com/pages/index.asp?affid=4177&sub=11491

You're welcome Old Woman.

Oh, is Video Poker at $500 a hand a good bet? I guess in the 50 or 100 hand machines you get some back, so maybe this reduces some risk since you are likely to have some winning hands even if you are dealt bricks.

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I clicked your banner Granny. It shows a 50% match bonus now. Did they just lower it?

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Why? It was higher before? I looked at this Site 2 weeks ago and it was 50%. I just can't decide if I want the big bets.

[Synergistic Explosions]

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So for the record, I deposited $300, got a $300 bonus that can't be withdrawn, won $475, to get a total balance of $1075, of which $775 should be available for cashout.

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Yes, lazymeatball said he got a 100% deposit. The link I got from Granny said 50%. So I'm wondering if they changed it today.

[Just The Facts]

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Yes, lazymeatball said he got a 100% deposit. The link I got from Granny said 50%. So I'm wondering if they changed it today.

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I emailed. They said it had been higher, but that it was changed a while ago. They said reloads may be higher so maybe his was a reload. Most sticky bonuses are much higher, but they have the wagering requirement. At 100% bonus, people would clean them out. Maybe that is what happened. The whores struck again, but at least it is still an amazing bonus. May not last at this level either.

[GrannyMae]

I clicked your banner Granny. It shows a 50% match bonus now. Did they just lower it?

actually, they did lower it a while ago.

HOWEVER, it was not lowered at all in reality.

here is what i mean:
at one point it was 100% to $300. the $300 has not changed, and never will. only the percentage did. yes, you have to put more up to get the maximum bonus, but the extra $300 you put up NEVER has to be put at risk because you can leave after one hand.

the bottom line is that it is a $300 sticky that will be removed on your cash-in. whether it cost you $600 to get the $300, or $300 to get the $300, it is still $300. the extra $300 you would have to put up should just be considered banked money in your mind. I.e. don't touch it. follow the regular strategy and forget the additional $300 is even there. it has no effect on playing this bonus, and no EV was removed when the percentage changed.

they are going to remove $300 from your cash-in whether you had to put up $600 to get it, or only $300 to get it. as i said, this is one of those weird instances where the zero WR makes this change in percentage completely irrelevant, other than the fact that you have to put $600 there. this is a bonus that needs to be looked at in dollars, not percentages. the dollars did not change, and they won't be changing it again soon as JtF suggests.

if you play it like it should be, you will have your $600 (plus win) back within minutes anyway, so it is not like regular casinos and pokerrooms where you have your money tied up for days (or a week).

just don't touch the extra $300 you had to put there. wipe it it from your mind, and pretend it was a $300, 100% match.

hope that clears it up

[GrannyMae]

Oh, is Video Poker at $500 a hand a good bet?

i have not done the exact math, but you are certainly correct that it lowers risk. in blackjack or baccarat, you win or lose. in 10, 50, or 100 hand VP you will definately get many wins. here's the deal in my brain, and it is what i am going to try with my next reload.

i am going to play 50 hand, 50 cent VP. just one hand is $125 i think.

what i am praying for is to be dealt 2 pair (or better obviously). if i am dealt 2 pair on this bottom hand, which happens alot, i will at LEAST double my money. i'll actually make more because in 50 hands, i expect some full houses.

if i am not dealt 2 pair, i want jacks or better dealt. that insures a push, but also gives me 50 or 100 draws to 2pr, trips, full houses and quads.

worst case--> i get dealt squat on the bottom. i still have 50 or 100 hands and will likely hit many, many hands for at least a partial return on my investment. with a little luck, i can be dealt a royal if i redraw all 5 cards.

bottom line, i think the risk of losing it all is lower when playing VP, and the house edge you give up by playing VP instead of blackjack or baccarat is well worth it to those that are more risk averse. did you play last night JtF?

finally, your comment about not being sure about the big bets certainly has some merit, but there is no reason to bet $500 a hand like these other people do. go with $100 hands, or even try to grind it with $20 hands. hell, play some craps. i know you love that.

point is you can cashin and go home ANYTIME you want, just like a real casino. just because you CAN bet $500 per hand, does not mean that you should bet it. Treat it like a night at a $25 BJ table in Monaco. relax and have fun.



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This is a serious overlay

precisely the beauty of this place.

out of curiosity, why baccarat? is the HA on BJ in this place higher than it should be? nice score

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Is there an advantage in using your link or banner V signing up direct? What Video Poker game is best for this bonus structure?

[GrannyMae]

Is there an advantage in using your link or banner V signing up direct? What Video Poker game is best for this bonus structure?

yes. all sign-ups may choose between

a. a copy of the famous paris hilton-mason malmuth-granny mae sex sandwich video

OR

b. a toothless gum-hummer from your choice of paris hilton, granny mae or mason malmuth.

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NO! there is no advantage. the deal is the same. the only thing you would get from me would be that i would fight like hell for you if you had any problems, and say thanks for the click. fights coming from the affiliate are usually resolved quicker

BUTTT there will be no problems with this casino. they are trustworthy or i would not have gotten involved. so, use my links or sign direct.

best VP game i think is jacks or better, but i am not 100% on that. i have to look at the paytable for the double bonus game.

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I clicked your banner Granny. It shows a 50% match bonus now. Did they just lower it?

actually, they did lower it a while ago.

HOWEVER, it was not lowered at all in reality.

here is what i mean:
at one point it was 100% to $300. the $300 has not changed, and never will. only the percentage did. yes, you have to put more up to get the maximum bonus, but the extra $300 you put up NEVER has to be put at risk because you can leave after one hand.

the bottom line is that it is a $300 sticky that will be removed on your cash-in. whether it cost you $600 to get the $300, or $300 to get the $300, it is still $300. the extra $300 you would have to put up should just be considered banked money in your mind. I.e. don't touch it. follow the regular strategy and forget the additional $300 is even there. it has no effect on playing this bonus, and no EV was removed when the percentage changed.

they are going to remove $300 from your cash-in whether you had to put up $600 to get it, or only $300 to get it. as i said, this is one of those weird instances where the zero WR makes this change in percentage completely irrelevant, other than the fact that you have to put $600 there. this is a bonus that needs to be looked at in dollars, not percentages. the dollars did not change, and they won't be changing it again soon as JtF suggests.

if you play it like it should be, you will have your $600 (plus win) back within minutes anyway, so it is not like regular casinos and pokerrooms where you have your money tied up for days (or a week).

just don't touch the extra $300 you had to put there. wipe it it from your mind, and pretend it was a $300, 100% match.

hope that clears it up

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The whole amount (deposit + bonus) should be wagered in one go for obvious reasons, why give time for the house edge to kick in, this is precisely why they have WR's in the first place. So as for the 50 % bonus vs the 100 % the 100 is infinitley better. As for ignoring the additional 300 dollars you have to deposit in order to get the max bonus of 300, do so at your peril !!

EG1) 100% Bonus: deposit 300 + bonus 300 = 600
Wager 600 win 600. Balance 1,200 - 300 = 900 for 600 profit

EG2) 50% Bonus: deposit 600 + bonus 300 = 900
Wager 600 win 600. Balance 1,500 - 300 = 1,200 for 600 profit

GREAT SO FAR !

EG3) 100% Bonus: deposit 300 + bonus 300 = 600
Wager 600 lose 600. Balance 0 - 0 = 0 for 300 loss

EG4) 50% Bonus: deposit 600 + bonus 300 = 900
Wager 600 lose 600. Balance 300 - 300 = 0 for 600 loss

This is a big change in negative EV for the same wager !

[GrannyMae]

the max bet is $500. i don't know if that changes these figures any. you certainly are more informed than i am on this. however, it is the only place that has the bonus structure like this, so it is 50% or nada.

do you have advice on using VP for this?