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AnteGravity
09-07-2004, 08:54 AM
I had MP3 and BB pegged as loose-aggressive. Did I underraise the flop? Did I miss some detail on the turn, should I have just folded on the river?

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (10 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($8.85)
BB ($5.42)
UTG ($6.65)
UTG+1 ($11.83)
UTG+2 ($4.27)
MP1 ($20.50)
MP2 ($8.25)
<font color="C00000">MP3 ($21.91)</font>
<font color="C00000">AnteGravity ($7.90)</font>
Button ($1.85)

Preflop: AnteGravity is CO with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.05.
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.10, <font color="CC3333">AnteGravity raises to $0.8</font>, Button folds, SB (poster) folds, BB calls $0.70, UTG folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $0.70.

Flop: ($2.75) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets $0.1</font>, MP3 calls $0.10, <font color="CC3333">AnteGravity raises to $1.5</font>, BB calls $1.40, MP3 calls $1.40.

Turn: ($7.25) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">AnteGravity bets $3.4</font>, BB folds, MP3 calls $3.40.

River: ($14.05) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP3 bets $2.4</font>, AnteGravity calls $2.20.

Final Pot: $18.65
<font color="green">Main Pot: $18.65, between MP3 and AnteGravity.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP3 ($18.65).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
MP3 has 3c 3h (three of a kind, threes).
AnteGravity has Td Th (one pair, tens).
Outcome: MP3 wins $18.65. </font>

Chris Daddy Cool
09-07-2004, 09:34 AM
I would probably just give up on this hand after he called your flop raise and just check the turn/river if I got the chance to. He could be on a flush draw, but he's usually not betting into the preflop raiser without at least an K or even a J, both which beat you. Fine, you raised to try to push him off his hand. It didn't work... unless you truly believe you are ahead, though I can't imagine what you could be beating aside from a flush draw.

I would have folded the river btw. 3 overcards including an ace, which is what a lot of loose players (which is how you described him) like to wait for.

AnteGravity
09-07-2004, 09:45 AM
Your right, I raised the flop and his call should have let me know that I'm most likely beat, even by Jx, and the river bet should have sealed it for me.

What about preflop?

jcm4ccc
09-07-2004, 10:09 AM
I think pre-flop you did just fine. But, man, when that J-K came up on the flop and you got no help, I would have folded right then. I wouldn't have even paid the 20 cents to stay in the game.

The odds are very high that someone would have the J or K, which means you were no longer high hand. And there was very little that was going to help you on the turn and river, except perhaps another T. Save your 20 cents for another hand.

jcm4ccc
09-07-2004, 10:11 AM
Based on your betting on this hand, I would also peg you as loose-aggressive. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, if you can hang with it.

AnteGravity
09-07-2004, 10:30 AM
I'm not L/A, I'm comfortable as T/A this hand was just different, one of those times I thought I could play the players. I was -almost- right, the BB had nothing, and the eventual winner had called my pre-flop raise with 33, trip it was though, but I can't argue with the 2 overcard issue, its just that little raise and call show those two put on the flop hand me convienced I was ahead.

Oh well, but to not get any spirits down I did get a nice bonus off this hand that soaked up the bust. Eh, go fig.