Opinions?

[reecelights]

7th hand. Party 10/1 PL HE

Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: reecelights (800)
Seat 2: mmw74 (840)
Seat 3: beav720 (775)
Seat 4: flop3sevens (1405)
Seat 5: ecurbd (610)
Seat 7: scrappydog38 (445)
Seat 8: HarryLime2 (2175)
Seat 9: buck82 (950)
buck82 posts small blind (10)
reecelights posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to reecelights [ Kc, Td ]
mmw74 raises (30) to 30
beav720 calls (30)
flop3sevens calls (30)
ecurbd folds.
scrappydog38 folds.
HarryLime2 folds.
buck82 calls (20)
reecelights calls (15)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, 8d, Qd ]
buck82 bets (150)

Result in white:
<font color="white">I muck, but would have hit nut K high straight on next hand when J falls. </font>

Next level. Both players are a hair on the loose side.

Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: reecelights (710)
Seat 2: mmw74 (370)
Seat 4: flop3sevens (1240)
Seat 5: ecurbd (125)
Seat 8: HarryLime2 (3620)
Seat 9: buck82 (1935)
flop3sevens posts small blind (15)
ecurbd posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to reecelights [ Jc, Js ]
HarryLime2 folds.
buck82 calls (30)
flop3sevens: position
reecelights raises (90) to 90
mmw74 folds.
flop3sevens calls (75)
ecurbd raises (95) to 125
ecurbd is all-In.
buck82 folds.
reecelights calls (35)
flop3sevens calls (35)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ad, Qs, As ]
flop3sevens bets (150)

Raise, call, fold?

Results in white:
<font color="white"> ** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 4d ]
** Summary **
flop3sevens [ Th Tc ]
ecurbd [ Jd Jh ]
I would have split with the all-in player.</font>

Thanks,
Chuck

[Hold em 888]

I'm curious to see the results here, but it appears that you've typed white font on a white background.

[Depalma]

That's to keep the results hidden until you want to see them.

Just drag your mouse across the area below "results in white" and you will see the text

[MeanGreenTT]

On the 1st hand, I would done the same...you're only getting a little better than 2-1 on your money with a call and your outs are 3 Kings and 4 Jacks, which I'd discount 2 of, leaving you with 5 outs and even if you hit a king, you might not have the best kicker, although no one has bet like they have a KQ or AK....just my .02

[Phill S]

i agree.

id fold the first hand no question. no point drawing to four outs. (you can assume wtih enough certainty the king is a dead card as its likely to make someone two pair on this board).

the second hand, id reraise preflop all in. your short, youve raised (and committed like 15% of your stack doing so), and you can probably isolate the all in guy by going all in. and if the flop3sevens guy decides to join you you only need to beat one player to survive, and two players to win a slightly more sizable pot.

Phill

[MeanGreenTT]

On the 2nd hand...again, at this point, with his raise, I wouldn't call it'd be fold or all-in but maybe it's still a little too early for that. So I'd tend to fold, although I'm tight!

If they have an Ace, Queen, King and a King drops you're hosed, they could be on a flush draw and be trying to push you outta the hand in case you are holding a pair....tough position for sure but again, for me, it's fold or all-in with a fold most likely being my call waiting to get my money in with better cards....JJ is great I think with 6 players, but that is a scary flop for JJ.

[Saint_D]

I read someplace else on 2+2 that anytime you can get all in with JJ or higher pocket pair, before the flop, you shoud. I believed the math, and therefore would have re-raised myself.

Saint_D