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StuR
09-05-2004, 04:19 PM
This post has 3 hands in it, sorry if this is unpopular but they all have the same problem - I didnt have any specific reads on the main players involved in each hand, but if player read would help could you suggest the correct play against that type (understand?)

1) Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero (poster) raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds.

Turn: (7.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Should I bet the river for value? I was worried about a weak king and bet the turn to get the free showdown. Is this too passive?

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

2) Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (15 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

I was stuck between dropping on the flop and calling down. I chose the later and think this is incorrect. Views?

3) Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (4.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.75 BB

So many overcards, so I dropped this. Once again, Is this too weak ?

Sorry for the lack of player reads and length of the post.

Any comments appreciated.

StuR

StuR
09-06-2004, 04:42 PM
bump

afk
09-06-2004, 05:12 PM
Hand one I think is fine. When you're called on a river bet I don't see you winning much of the time.

Hand two I check-fold the turn.

Hand three I play the same.