Full Tilt Bonus Clearing strategy

[joedot]

I was wondering how other people are planning on clearing this bonus. It seems to be rather slow to clear. What would be the best way to clear for someone who wants to play tight, with a $600 bankroll. I was thinking maybe the 1/2 or 2/4 no limit tables. It seems to clear at about $10 per 2 hours here. I played 2/4 limit and it was ridiculously slow. Any thoughts?

[Tosh]

You cannot possibly play 2/4 or 1/2 NL off $600.

[joedot]

lol

[Sponger15SB]

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You cannot possibly play 2/4 or 1/2 NL off $600.

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Tosh, the max buy in for the 2/4 is $400. It can be done.

[Homer]

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You cannot possibly play 2/4 or 1/2 NL off $600.

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Tosh, the max buy in for the 2/4 is $400. It can be done.

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He meant that $600 is not a sufficient bankroll.

[Sponger15SB]

Yes, I realize that.

[Tosh]

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Tosh, the max buy in for the 2/4 is $400. It can be done.

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Well let him go for it if he wants but that is badly playing above your bankroll.

[Sponger15SB]

*sigh*

[Tosh]

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lol

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Lol? Oh I have a lol of my own; that is some new player in a desperate attempt to earn a bonus a bit quicker plays well above his means and goes bust. No doubt followed by an 'online poker is rigged' argument.

[Tosh]

I guess I've missed your point? Oh well I'll survive.

[joedot]

if by new player you mean someone who has been playing online poker for 4 years, and who quit their job 2 years ago and has lived off poker ever since then, well I guess I'm new then. lol. Anyway, I was just putting the 600 number up there because that's what I bought into full tilt for. It is $1000 now after 2 days. Anyway, that was my mistake for even putting that info out there. The real question was about clearing the bonus, not about bankroll management. If you really are so concerned, I don't have the same variance that a lot of the posters on here seem to have.

[Tosh]

New to FULL TILT. I'm not really concerned about your bankroll, thats for you to worry about.

[NotBannedYet]

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Lol? Oh I have a lol of my own; that is some new player in a desperate attempt to earn a bonus a bit quicker plays well above his means and goes bust. No doubt followed by an 'online poker is rigged' argument.

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By looking at both the dates of registration and quality of content in the posts, I think it's easier to see who's more of a new player.

Tosh, I know you're trying to get to 5,000 posts ASAP, no matter how much drivel you have to spew, but come on man, think a little.

[Tosh]

Yup you're right, I cannot rest until I have 5,000. Naturally I will always be posting drivel, but I will try to make more high quality and insightful posts like yourself.

I guess stating a fact to joedot constitutes drivel too. I shall say au revoir to this thread, but I hope to speak to you again soon. I am sure it will improve my game no end.

[AtlBrvs4Life]

I agree with Tosh. If your bankroll is actually bigger than $600, then it's your mistake for stating that it was $600 in the original post. The absolute minimum bankroll for 1/2 NL should be about $1000.

[Sponger15SB]

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I agree with Tosh. If your bankroll is actually bigger than $600, then it's your mistake for stating that it was $600 in the original post. The absolute minimum bankroll for 1/2 NL should be about $1000.

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Agreed, I did have a nice laugh though in thinking of somebody with a $600 bankroll making a living off poker for the last 2 years.

[chezlaw]

I've decided to give up.

I went for the full $600 bonus intending to play 3/6 and 5/10 limit holdem and some O/8. I had a lot of spare time last week so thought I'd give it a shot. I think I have wasted my time as:

1) there is often no game above 2/4 (sometimes only 1/2) and they are fairly tough even when running.

2) $600 is not enough and I didn't want to commit more money to the site.

3) the bonus is earned at a stunningly slow place. To be precise I have nearly got my first $120 and I've played ~forever.


It's a shame, the site is quite nice but once I've got my $120 I'm out of here.

chez

[L0QTiS]

I've been watching the traffic at this site over the weekend since Friday. 1000 seems about average.

If this figure gets to be around 2000-2500 (around the current level at Absolute) things may get a bit easier in terms of selection. I'll probably not deposit until I see it above 1500 on a regular basis.


chezlaw, how many table hours did you have to put in to clear (or nearly so) $120?

Can you cashout without loosing the bonus offer (I wouldnt think so but you never know).

[chezlaw]

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chezlaw, how many table hours did you have to put in to clear (or nearly so) $120?

Can you cashout without loosing the bonus offer (I wouldnt think so but you never know).

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No precise records but I reckon about 40 table hours.

afaik I can withdraw with no penalty. I sure hope so

[AncientPC]

I don't have an idea of how many hands I've played because clicking on Stats crashes Full Tilt for me, but . . .

I cleared $7 worth of bonus money 1 tabling 100 NL for about 45 minutes.

I cleared $7 worth of bonus money 3 tabling 25 NL for about 3-4 hours.

Yay. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Gotmilk]

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The absolute minimum bankroll for 1/2 NL should be about $1000.

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If you are very good, particularly with a shortstack, you can survive with much less. It's very hard to lose your buy-in 12 times if you are buying in at $80 a pop.

[redsimon]

Apart from the fact I can't access the Fulltilt site (emailed support to see whats going wrong), the games/players sends a big red flag up. How long will it take to complete the raked hands with so few live games, 1000 players maybe but not that many cash game players. Anyone wondered why they are offering 100%? Sounds like an urgent need for cash to me. Hope its on the level.

[GoSox]

Great 300+ hours to clear the bonus then in NL. That's why I'm not bothering yet, I can't find games on Absolute to clear the bonus there, and they have twice the players as full tilt. Hopefully it will pickup by month end, I'm waiting to deposit for now.

Full Tilt may have invented the greatest bonus ever, that was never paid !

[chezlaw]

Cashed out at 6:00pm last night and the money was in neteller this morning.

I wish them well but wont be back unless they can get the players.

[Overdrive]

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Great 300+ hours to clear the bonus then in NL. That's why I'm not bothering yet, I can't find games on Absolute to clear the bonus there, and they have twice the players as full tilt. Hopefully it will pickup by month end, I'm waiting to deposit for now.

Full Tilt may have invented the greatest bonus ever, that was never paid !

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Well, I don't know if they created the greatest bonus ever - but they have definately created the hardest bonus to clear that has ever been invented by mankind.

Right now with so many other sites out there it just doesn't seem worth it to me.

[CheckCheckFold]

I cleared 120 dollars a couple of days ago. You need 2000 points to clear 120 dollars. It's not as difficult as you may think to get 2000 points. You don't have to see the flop to get the points, you only need to be dealt the hand to get the points. If you play .5/1 or 1/2 NL you can rack in points pretty quickly. Also Full Tilt's cashout is amazingly fast. Cashout shows up on Netteller in only a few hours. Full Tilt Software is amazing too. The only downside of FullTilt is not enough players. I hope they get big one of these days.

[Bubbagump]

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I can't find games on Absolute to clear the bonus there, and they have twice the players as full tilt

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I don't know what limits you are looking to play at on Absolute, but I have been clearing the bonuses there in the 1-2 games. The games are not always good, but if you check frequently, you will find good games there. I have found the games to be best in the evenings Eastern Standard Time.

Bubbagump

[Vannek]

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You don't have to see the flop to get the points, you only need to be dealt the hand to get the points.

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Is this really true?

[eh923]

I haven't read all the posts...so forgive me if this is a repeat.

Play 2/4 or 3/6 on a table with a pro. I noticed that the tables with the pros seemed a bit looser and more aggressive. Some people even pumped the pots with crap trying to "outplay" the pros. Play tight, and you'll be fine at these tables.

Despite logging a bunch of time, I didn't get many bonus points because I was at a tight and aggressive 3/6 table(approximately 80% raised preflop, no flop or 2 to the flop about 50% of the time). I know....here come the "CHANGE TABLES" arguments. Sorry...there were no other tables, and I had money burning a hole in my pocket!!!

[AncientPC]

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You don't have to see the flop to get the points, you only need to be dealt the hand to get the points.

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Is this really true?

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Yes that is true. From what I've been told this is the norm for most poker sites.

[Rudbaeck]

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You don't have to see the flop to get the points, you only need to be dealt the hand to get the points.

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Is this really true?

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Yes that is true. From what I've been told this is the norm for most poker sites.

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It is, of the sites I've played only the Prima network counts raked hands as only hands you put money in and were raked. All others are hands in which you were dealt cards.

[eh923]

From FTP's site:
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For each dollar raked from a pot, every player who was dealt cards for that hand will earn one point. You can earn partial points if less than one dollar is raked, and you can earn up to three points per hand.

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To me, this reads that you personally don't need to be in on the flop....but the hand MUST BE RAKED in order to get points towards your bonus. I think the first rake was taken when the pot reached $20.

[sthief09]

yes you're right... Tosh has never written anything good in his 4600 posts and cares about nothing more than getting to that 5000 post mark. further, he just wants to hold that guy back, telling him that $600 isn't enough of a bankroll for 2/4

Tosh, why do you even post on this forum?

[boogerboy]

since you are so good and have so little variance, why worry about the bonus, just go gobble up the fish. I think you are full of it.

[eh923]

Don't talk about "gobbling" with a name like boogerboy! It makes me quesy! /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Sponger15SB]

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since you are so good and have so little variance, why worry about the bonus, just go gobble up the fish. I think you are full of it.

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Yup, its true. Tosh sucks. Now go away mr 9 posts and stop acting like you know anything /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[lefty rosen]

18.5K since July of 2002. If you play soft enough 1/2 or 2/4 games and are really observant you can survive if you one table at 2/4 or 2 table 1/2. Granted I almost tapped twice at 2/4 2 tabling but I have learned my lesson.......

[Punker]

I believe he said not to play 2-4 NL...not limit.

[joedot]

Thanks for the replies. From my observations the nl games are a good way to clear the bonus and still play tight. I've found plenty of 3/6 and 5/10 games, and whether or not they are soft, well I have 1200 in my account from the initial 600, and haven't really felt like I was struggling to win. Anyway, this bonus clears very slow imo. I have 80 cleared so far, but uggh. Definitely not easy like the party poker bonus. Software on there is cool though. gl all

[ihaterivers]

Stay away from this bonus unless you have a nice bankroll and plan to play the bigger NL games. This is definitely the toughest bonus by far to clear and the pros sure never seem to take any bad beats. Playin 2/4 NL with andy bloch and he's up about $1000 and I havent seen him lose a pot at showdown yet. Wait... Maybe that's why he is a pro.. LOL.. Also in same game 2 hands in a row I saw board of qq55 rag and one person had the queen and the other had 55. Nasty

[Elijah Bailey]

Playing 5/10 clears the bonus at a respectable rate. I played 3/6 for a while but all those $18 pots really suck when you are wanting rake to be taken.