$200K Guaranteed on Party Thread (09/04/04)

[uw_madtown]

Who else is gonna be in tonight?

Party name uwmadtown, will post my table and updates at the break... post your Party nick so we can see how 2+2 does.

- uwmadtown

[ansky451]

I'm in it, same name.

[fnord_too]

8 sats nary a win so I bought in. fnords

Aside (rantish): Can someone tell me what my facination with satelites is? I am +EV in them, but geez, but even multitabling them my hourly rate sucks, and it's not like I won't pay the entry fee if I don't win my way in. One day I'll learn...

[MHarris]

Party name MHarris77. This one's my first....won a $10 satellite Monday. Good luck to all the 2+2ers!

[pokerraja]

im in. name is cashbrigade.

satelites dont make much sense to me. i mean, why not just play a $33 or $55 sng and pay your own way?

[uw_madtown]

I'm in via satellite... I think I'm going to start doing one-time shots at satellites. I can't really afford to do more buy-ins, nor can I afford to buy my own way in... at the same time, I like the idea of having a long-shot to make big money in one of these $200Ks, so it's worth losing $24 a week or whatever on a single SNG sat. I guess it's my form of gambling.

Edited to add: I'm at table 17.

- UW

[ansky451]

yeah i agree, i made 800 playing 100$ NL last night.. that paid my way /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Paper Boy]

i am playing in this tournament. table 109.

[ansky451]

For some reason, i played k6s, flopped trip 6s, and doubled up against a q6s...!


(i limped into a multiway pot.)

[pokerraja]

I just doubled up early. i get 22 on the button. raised to 60 preflop ( first level). 5 callers before me! i figured set it or forget time. i flop a set. slow play to the turn. AK puts me all in. i call!

[uw_madtown]

Played poorly in two pots and I'm out at 1045.

Frustrating, as I had the best hand pre-flop both times, and the best hand on the flop in the last one. I feel like ranting Hellmuth style.

- UW

[fnord_too]

I'm out. Heres another for the I'm too weak to lay this down file.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed)

Button (t1200)
Hero (t955)
BB (t960)
UTG (t990)
UTG+1 (t1105)
MP1 (t1860)
MP2 (t3525)
MP3 (t715)
CO (t875)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t20, MP3 folds, CO calls t20, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t80) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets t50</font>, MP2 calls t50, CO folds, Hero calls t50.

Turn: (t230) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks.

River: (t230) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t250</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises to t700</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t885 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t635, MP2 calls t185.

Final Pot: t2885
<font color="green">Main Pot: t2885 (t2885), between Hero, BB and MP2.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP2 (t2885).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Tc Qc (straight, king high).
BB shows Td 7s (straight, jack high).
MP2 shows 8h 8s (full house, eights full of jacks).
Outcome: MP2 wins t2885. </font>

[MHarris]

Overplayed some marginal hands, busted out 907th.

[pokerraja]

ouch.

[Airpoaneman]

25th last week fellas...you guys need to get better then that..good luck everyone!!!!

[uw_madtown]

Correction -- I didn't go to showdown on the first one, so I may have been beat pre-flop.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed)

UTG+2 (t1175)
MP1 (t340)
MP2 (t1095)
MP3 (t2070)
CO (t940)
Button (t875)
SB (t870)
BB (t780)
UTG (t950)
Hero (t905)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, UTG+2 calls t60, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (t150) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 bets t50</font>, Hero calls t50.

Overcard outs, backdoor straight possible, and I'm not convinced he hit the flop at all.

Turn: (t250) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 bets t55</font>, Hero calls t55.

My mistakes have compiled. I'm not sure if I'm getting pot odds to call here, but I'm sure I'm getting implied odds as I think he'll pay off my straight if I hit, thinking I was chasing a flush.

River: (t360) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 bets t325</font>, Hero folds.

Complete whiff and my calling station behavior makes me want to cry now. Still not convinced that he was just bluffing with ace high... but since I can't BEAT ace high...

Final Pot: t685
UTG+2 doesn't show.
Outcome: UTG+2 wins t685.



Second hand, I misplayed terribly although I'm not even sure how ELSE to play this without busting, unless I play the turn ultra passively.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed)

UTG (t1370)
UTG+1 (t340)
UTG+2 (t1095)
MP1 (t2110)
MP2 (t940)
MP3 (t875)
CO (t860)
Button (t740)
SB (t930)
Hero (t740)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t20, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls t20, Button calls t20, SB folds, Hero checks.

I check, thinking that I'm not going to have much folding equity by raising to 60 here. And AQo is such a hard hand to play that I'm not sure I want to get in for 40 more without some chance of taking it down. I'll check to disguise that i have probably the best hand, but will get out on the flop without an ace, queen, or the unlikely flopped straight.

Flop: (t90) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t90</font>, MP1 calls t90, CO folds, Button calls t90.

Rainbow flop: good. Straight draw: bad. I doubt there's an AK slowplaying preflop, but 89 could be out there. I'll make a pot-sized bet and see where I stand. Uh-oh, two callers... I'm putting them on a single K or 9 and they're drawing to their straight...

Turn: (t360) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises to t600</font>, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t630 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls t30.

Well that was an ugly Jack -- I suppose one of them could have called with a Jack there, but I doubt it unless it's AJ or KJ, and that doesn't ring true at all. The pot is at 360, so I'll bet 300 for a near pot-sized bet. And then like a fish, I'll push the rest in because he just CAN'T have a Jack here, he just can't...

River: (t1620) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1620

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Qh Ac (two pair, aces and queens).
MP1 shows Jd 8d (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: MP1 wins t1620. </font>

My betting on the turn was ugly. In retrospect, this is a check-and-fold situation, and even after stupidly betting out, it's a fold situation. I guess I figured that there was a decent chance that he may be semi-bluffing with KQ/Q9/KT/T9 and that I'd be so crippled if I folded that I had to put the rest in. Which, if I was going to do that, I should have pushed to begin with.

- UW

[kenstall]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm out. Heres another for the I'm too weak to lay this down file.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed)

Button (t1200)
Hero (t955)
BB (t960)
UTG (t990)
UTG+1 (t1105)
MP1 (t1860)
MP2 (t3525)
MP3 (t715)
CO (t875)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t20, MP3 folds, CO calls t20, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t80) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets t50</font>, MP2 calls t50, CO folds, Hero calls t50.

Turn: (t230) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks.

River: (t230) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t250</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises to t700</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t885 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t635, MP2 calls t185.

Final Pot: t2885
<font color="green">Main Pot: t2885 (t2885), between Hero, BB and MP2.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP2 (t2885).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Tc Qc (straight, king high).
BB shows Td 7s (straight, jack high).
MP2 shows 8h 8s (full house, eights full of jacks).
Outcome: MP2 wins t2885. </font>

[/ QUOTE ]

Too early in the tournament to let people draw.
Check/call flop is fine but you needed to bet out that turn.

[pokerraja]

1st break im at T2900. hopefully i can keep getting good cards and stay out of trouble.

[uw_madtown]

I dunno, I get the feeling you were all slowplaying there. If you'd have pushed early, you'd still have been called down, even to an all-in. I can't imagine the low straight or the set folding to any bet, so you were going to get sucked out on. And I certainly couldn't have laid it down despite seeing the board pair. I guess maybe if they'd called some big bets on the flop and turn then I could put them on a set... still hard to get away from for anyone in that pot.

- UW

[kenstall]

1st Break 5615
Flopped trips 4x - 3 held up

[ansky451]

foolishly called an allin with aqs, lost to 99, still at about 1000

[Airpoaneman]

ansky flopped quads and took down over pocket pair..way to go!

[ansky451]

yes, yes i did. 22, blinds 25/50, limped in mp, called another 100, flop comes 224, i take down a tt.

[ansky451]

oh yeah airpoaneman, ask me what i actually had later on that kkjxx hand

[Airpoaneman]

ansky...you are in really good shape man 2x average stack aint too shabby. If i were you I would stop rasing those pots and wait till you have a good hand, then a good flop. 575 left...you have plenty of time...gl

[pokerraja]

ive been card dead since the last break. losing blinds. Hands like Q10, and KQ are starting to look like killers. ok, just had to get that out of my system. down to 2400. about average. i need to mentally regroup. sometimes it helps to right these post, kind of therapeutic. stay pateint, amen.

[ansky451]

blinds 50/100, i limp utg with aa, 1 other limper, rest fold (including bb!) flop comes 29q, i check, he bets pot, i rereaise to about 800, he pushes and i call. he has jq and doesnt improve. im sitting nice at 8k, hope i dont do anything stupid.

[ansky451]

blinds t75/150 lp makes it 500 first in, i make it 1500 straight from the button with AKs, blinds fold, lp thinks for a bit and folds, he had about t3000 after he folded. standard play?

[Airpoaneman]

IT IS IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO KEEP POSTING IF YOU ARE IN THE GAME....I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO DO SO..gl

[pokerraja]

well, after having my best week ever in MTT's (3 top 20 finishes), i just did something very stupid. after being card dead for ever, i got restless. i get A10 os in mp. i have 2100 chips. blinds are 75-150. UTG open raises to 300. he has me covered. action to me. i pause and then put him all-in. why? cuz im an idiot. i just wanted him to fold and take those few chips. why? cuz im an idiot and i played like an idiot. anyways, this was my 2nd hand of the hour and i figured table would fold. well, he calls with JJ and i get no help. wow. im an idiot!

[ethan]

Seems pretty reasonable to me. Did you figure he was stealing? What's your plan if he pushes?

[kenstall]

Just over 11K. I love drawers...except when they catch

[ansky451]

given his stack size, itd only have been another 2k, so i think i have to call his push

[ethan]

Agreed. Looks like you're in good shape, keep it up.

[ansky451]

just put about half my stack in with aces vs ak preflop, aces held up, at about t15k now.

[ansky451]

just made my first big mistake, guy made a small raise from mp, i called with j9s from bb, check raised all in with a flush draw on a 88a flop, he called with a9, i didnt improve, and lost 6k. very next hand tho, i win a nice pot with qq, and im back to about 14k, so not tooo much harm done.

[kenstall]

Played 2 hands
KQ &amp; KJ both late position, folded to me raised 3x someone came over all in. Folded both. 1st KK 2nd JJ. UGH
down to 9500

[jdbessix]

Still in with T8700. Just placed 6th in the 100NL for 1700. /images/graemlins/grin.gif It's a good day in the neighborhood. GL all

[jdbessix]

Opps, forgot. Table 6 Four2Eight.

[ansky451]

in the money, gj all who are still around, (tbl 12 for me)

[kenstall]

200K Saturday on Party

7 from money

Hero is Table leader

Stacks :
Hero 15276
Villan 6520

Hero dealt 2d 5h in big blind
Flop 3h, Ac, 4d
Hero checks. Villan bets 1100

Push him in or call?

[jdbessix]

Push him in. To many wierd things seem to happen when you give people an opportunity to draw

[Arnett23]

just curious, does every level tourney on party have 20min blind levels or just big money ones, and when do the antes start kicking in?

[kenstall]

Ran into trips with 2 pair
Good Luck to all left

[OPJayhawk]

Hang in there Four. People are dropping like flies.

PacmanKS

[ansky451]

as far as i know, ps is the only site with antes late on in the tourney, pp doesnt have it

[ansky451]

8 man table, blinds 5k/10k, i get ajo in 3rd pos. with 7k in front of me, i push, get called by kings and he flops a house. bad push?

[Airpoaneman]

He obviously has aces or even 2 pair...you can NOT!!! push in here. Just call. Wait until he bets on the turn then raise. He either will fold or go all in. He most likly will go all in. Just make sure if you dont think he is bluffing that you let him know you are interested in the pot by how long it takes you to call.