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arkady

09-02-2004, 05:24 PM

I find that I sometimes take this betting/betting for value matter too far. Specifically when I am up against opponents who have a clue. problem of course is that most are unknown, but...

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, MP3 folds, CO folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.20 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (9.20 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 11.20 BB

Just tell me that this is how you would have played it.

David BB

09-02-2004, 05:26 PM

I play it the same way.

Tosh

09-02-2004, 05:26 PM

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Just tell me that this is how you would have played it.

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Like this...

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, MP3 folds, CO folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.20 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (9.20 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 11.20 BB

Chris Daddy Cool

09-02-2004, 05:29 PM

anybody like raising preflop?

arkady

09-02-2004, 05:30 PM

Fair enough, I put villain on KQ...but putting anyone on a specific hand is generally very poor poker. On top of which there are countless number of hands that I guess villain could have played the way she did.

But, since I didnt have a specific read - checking on the river is probably a big mistake.

Tosh

09-02-2004, 05:30 PM

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anybody like raising preflop?

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Thats good too. Party 5/10 I lean towards limping here though.

arkady

09-02-2004, 05:31 PM

On a Friday/Sat. night i think so. Yesterday the tables were not prime material, although this particular table proved to be decent.

Guy McSucker

09-02-2004, 06:07 PM

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anybody like raising preflop?

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Ed Miller says it's close. Me, I only raise AA. Really. Believe me. Please.

Guy.

onegymrat

09-02-2004, 07:00 PM

Cannot check. You would call a river bet from him, wouldn't you? Only AK, K9, KQ beats you...logically. AK he may have raised with, K9 would have 3-bet your flop raise. Too many hands to lose to you for you to check. Well played. Please tell me you won this hand.

arkady

09-02-2004, 09:35 PM

Domination was the theme of that session:

UTG: KQo for the winner.

arkady

09-02-2004, 09:36 PM

Well, I am closing the action - had I not been a bet is a no brainer. I think the distribution theory suggests that putting villain on specifically KQ is a mistake.

Michael Davis

09-02-2004, 09:37 PM

I would have raised preflop, but otherwise good.

-Michael

Michael Davis

09-02-2004, 09:39 PM

Note that one of the benefits of raising KJs from EP is that it will usually fold KQo if the player is decent and you haven't shown down a crazy raise or something.

-Michael

sublime

09-02-2004, 10:05 PM

Just tell me that this is how you would have played it

I havent read any other responses. I will assume the only thing being debated is limping preflop(I could go either way with that)