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Sundevils21
09-01-2004, 11:43 AM
at the WSOP, he always gets a standing ovation.
Will Phil Helmuth ever get the same thing. By the time PH is that old, hes almost definatly going to be the most accomplished player at the WSOP. Will people stand and cheer in the same way they do for Doyle? I think probably yes, but then again most people don't like him.

Bukem_
09-01-2004, 11:54 AM
No you need to be partially quiet to hear phil explain how exactly the rookie he was playing vs busted him out.

scotnt73
09-01-2004, 11:56 AM
im not going to start the Helmuth bashing but being RESPECTED takes ALOT more than just being a very good poker player. did you see the difference between the way the 2 busted out. Doyle gave a big smile and waved to the crowd and said see yall next year. Phill...well Phil was Phil.

meep_42
09-01-2004, 12:35 PM
Doyle was all class then entire time he was show on TV. Every pot he was in, every coinflip he won or lost, he took it all like it was just the way things happen.

I hope that I can be as even tempered as he was at the table someday.

-d

swede0530
09-01-2004, 04:04 PM
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Doyle was all class then entire time he was show on TV. Every pot he was in, every coinflip he won or lost, he took it all like it was just the way things happen.

I hope that I can be as even tempered as he was at the table someday.

-d

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Blood pressure meds will do that to you.

whiskeytown
09-01-2004, 04:06 PM
Doyle is like, the Joe Montana of Poker.

Phil is like the Jim McMahon of poker

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RB

Sponger15SB
09-01-2004, 04:10 PM
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Phil is like the Jim McMahon of poker

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as in WWE or Super Bowl Shuffle?

Fitz
09-01-2004, 04:28 PM
I'm not going to make a Hellmuth bashing post. I'm not fond of his antics, but to each his own.

I think the reason Doyle Brunson is so well liked and respected comes from many things. He appears to be a genuinely nice guy. He is, without a doubt, one of the greatest poker players of all time. He has survived a very difficult lifestyle and profession longer than just about anyone else. That by itself earns him a certain degree of respect. Finally, he is the last of something we will never see again. The "outlaw" element of poker that casinos and the internet have erased. There are still underground poker games out there, but the day of the back room game has been replaced by antiseptic casinos and a few mouse clicks. The truth be told, we'd all like to imagine ourselves riding into a town, chopping it up with our buddies and splitting with the cash while the locals wonder what hit them. Doyle Brunson lived that life, and that is part of why we think of him the way we do.

Time may mellow Phil Hellmuth, and he may well win ten more bracelets; he will have a very difficult achieving the level of respect Doyle has earned.

Good luck all,

Fitz

MissOt
09-01-2004, 05:28 PM
i saw on philhellmuth.com that doyle busted on a mistake. the guy with the a7 didnt hear doyle go all in i think and he pushed on the button or something. i think the a7 guy thought he was open pushing from the button. i dno go read philhellmuth.com for the real story. it sucks to go out like that though

i liked the standing ovation. i thought it was great. for a second it looked like he was going to start tearing. who doesnt love doyle?

Tyler Durden
09-01-2004, 05:33 PM
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i saw on philhellmuth.com that doyle busted on a mistake. the guy with the a7 didnt hear doyle go all in i think and he pushed on the button or something. i think the a7 guy thought he was open pushing from the button. i dno go read philhellmuth.com for the real story. it sucks to go out like that though

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Yea I read this also. Doyle didn't physically push his chips forward, he just announched "all-in." It was folded to the SB who is Lyle Berman's son. He hadn't heard Doyle's all-in raise so Berman thought he was just raising the BB. So when he said "raise" the dealer informed him that Doyle had already raised. So, for example, if the BB was 10K and Doyle moved in for 80K, Berman would have to make it at least 150K. Do you see why? Sorry just had to throw that in. So Berman made the reraise (he was obligated). The BB folded and Berman took his A7 heads up against Dolly.

Beavis68
09-01-2004, 05:44 PM
The guy didn't mean to push - Doyle gave a verbal all-in, and Berman didn't hear it. When it was passed to Berman, he says "raise" the dealer announces a reraise has been called and Berman is like "WTF?" a floorman was called over and it was determined that Berman had to rasie Doyles all-in. I was dissapointed ESPN didn't cover it.

whiskeytown
09-01-2004, 06:12 PM
Super Bowl (keeping in line with Football theme) -

I remember being in the Sears Twr. observation deck in Chicago with a friend...and one wall is dedicated to Chicago sports... and of course, they had Michael Jordon and some others...

and I go to my friend "what, no Jim Mcmahon? - who took you to the superbowl?"

"No" he goes "we dont' really like him or miss him around here"

won a Super Bowl championship, but character defects obliterated his work.

RB

CheckRaise
09-01-2004, 06:34 PM
They said on the broadcast that Berman was from Minneapolis, anyone know if he still lives there or does he live in Vegas or somewhere else.

Rushmore
09-01-2004, 07:38 PM
Good post.

I'm not sure why, but I was a bit surprised to see what a very nice guy Brunson seems to be.

I am a cynical person, but even I can see a great value in this.

There is a reason this man is revered. It is because he is a fantastic player, and he carries it incredibly well.

I admit to enjoying watching him play, and watching the way he conducts himself. It was a real pleasure.