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submariner
08-31-2004, 08:48 AM
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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

River: (16 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 16 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 16 BB, between UTG+1, MP1 and Hero.</font>

This was my first hand at this table. I felt like MP1's play was consistant with someone who had AA or KK and was worried about me having AA or JJ, or the flush. Should I have bet the river? I felt this was a 'only better hands will call' scenario. Is this correct or just weak/scared?

chio
08-31-2004, 08:57 AM
bet the river. you should be betting in many situations thinner than this one

"I felt this was a 'only better hands will call' scenario"

not at all, you have to bet the river when the biggest of all blanks comes, any pair will call, hell even A high might call. no one raised you on the turn, no flush str8 or overcard came. bet. you missed out on 2 BB in all likelihood.

Lost Wages
08-31-2004, 10:11 AM
The "You need to have the best hand &gt;50% of the times that you are called" mantra only applies to headsup situations. Here you have two potential callers so if both will call then you show a profit by by betting if you have the best hand only 35% of the time.

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TheHip41
08-31-2004, 11:01 AM
If you don't bet this river, what river do you bet? A perfect card hit for you. The deuce of nothing. If one of the other people in the hand had a flush, they would probably raise the turn. You have to bet this river. If the other guy has KK, so be it.

Derek

mistrpug
08-31-2004, 11:06 AM
Absolutely bet the river.

submariner
08-31-2004, 11:12 AM
Thanks for all the replies. I just turn into a big chicken on the river, don't know why.

mistrpug
08-31-2004, 01:05 PM
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Thanks for all the replies. I just turn into a big chicken on the river, don't know why.

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I'm the same way actually. It's easy enough to review other people's hands and say bet the river, but when I play my river aggression is about half my Flop/Turn aggression. I have to start following my own advise.