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toby
08-30-2004, 02:16 PM
$10+1 PL SNG at Party

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO (t645)
Button (t1685)
SB (t1100)
<font color="C00000">BB (t970)</font>
UTG (t640)
<font color="C00000">Hero (t860)</font>
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t560)
MP3 (t740)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t45</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t45, CO folds, Button calls t45, SB calls t35, BB calls t30, UTG calls t30.

Flop: (t270) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets t55</font>, UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, MP3 folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls t145.

Turn: (t670) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets t175</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t350</font>, BB calls t175.

River: (t1370) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets t265 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t265.

Final Pot: t1900
<font color="green">Main Pot: t1900 (t1900), between BB and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB (t1900).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows Kc Kh (full house, fours full of kings).
Hero shows Qs Qd (full house, fours full of queens).
Outcome: BB wins t1900. </font>

Lori
08-30-2004, 02:36 PM
Looks fine to me (not read results), I would say that at this level, you might as well make it 100 preflop as you'll still get the same callers that you get for 45.

Post flop, if you're beat you're going bust here every time or else you are playing badly.

Lori

ThingDo
08-30-2004, 05:06 PM
Your raise preflop is far too small IMO. I generally like to raise much larger ( but the same amount no matter what my holding. i.e If I'm raising in the early stages I make it exactly what I would with any other hand unless you know for sure that raising a certain amount will get a call that you def. want from a loose player. I generally like to raise to T75 in the 10/15 10/20 stg's etc. After these stages are over I move back to my normal 3x-4x BB raises. If the blinds are very large compared to the stacks I like moving down to 2.5x the BB.

StickyWicket
08-30-2004, 05:29 PM
I agree that the raise UTG should have, perhaps been bigger. I'd have likely made it 4X the BB since the blinds are small and bumping it "the pot" isn't doing much for you here.

Post-flop, you got rolled. You're going to go broke here every time. Looks like you got into a pot with a weak-passive player who doesn't re-raise anything pre-flop, so you had no idea you COULD have been beat. It's tough in a pot when you don't know where you're at...I'd be more afraid that the case 4 was out there with such a small preflop raise, since I'M going to be one of the players calling your dinky raise with 5-4s in late position to try to take you down /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bad luck. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Sticky /images/graemlins/heart.gif

TheDrone
08-30-2004, 05:30 PM
Aside from the inadequate preflop bet size, I would make a pot-sized raise on the flop so that any drawing hands pay more to come along.

lastchance
08-30-2004, 05:39 PM
You could smooth call the turn and push on the river. Just another way to play it if he doesn't have a hand that has you beat to get as much as possible. Or just push on the turn. I don't like the minraise over the top for most of your stack.

Other than that, yeah, raise more preflop, at least 75.

poboy
08-30-2004, 09:04 PM
I think you played this too slow. One your raise pre-flop is too small, you have the 3rd best hand in hold em act like it. Second when the BB bets on the flop I raise all-in right then and there, I think I'd even call all-in. Anytime I have AA,KK, or QQ I want all my chips in the middle. If I lose so be it , that's poker. If you go all-in maybe he folds fearing you have a 4, probably not but you never know.

Dominic
08-30-2004, 09:15 PM
Is it just me or does Sticky Wicket sound hot?

ligastar
08-31-2004, 12:59 AM
This is a PL and not a NL SNG...this is the reason I think that the pre-flop raise wasn't bigger.

Greg H.