Raising KJo in MP...

[MoDOH]

Been playing for an hour or so and there is alot of limping going on with all kind of hands.
read is that Button is really tight with only 11% VP$IP from 150 or so hands. the rest is pretty much typical PP folks...


Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

River: (8.25 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

missplayed on every street or what...

[papawawa]

I think you've got to bet the flop: 1)you showed strength preflop 2) you're closing the action 3) you could very well have the best hand 4) Other hands will fold.
Other than that I like your line.

[pokerkai]

Id be more inclined to take a shot on the flop to see where I stand, then take the free card.

[Kluddeludde]

I would bet the flop and take a free card on the turn instead. It is cheaper and I really don't think you can push everyone out with your bet on the turn.

Kludde

[Kluddeludde]

You beat me to it. I really should start reading other posts before I offer my own opinion...

Kludde

[MoreWineII]

It's unanimous.

[tolbiny]

I really should start reading other posts before I offer my own opinion...


Heck no- post your own opinion and then read others to see if you still think your is right or not. No one minds reading an extra two lines or repetition, and it will help you game to express you ideas alone at first, and then try to figure out why people differ.

[MAxx]

do you normally raise KJo in this spot? i see your reads, but i am just ckecking b/c i remember reading at least one other of your posts really recently where it looks like you are raising kind of light preflop. I am not saying that you are makeing a bad play here, I just want to point out that I have noticed you raising light preflop so that you know (in case you dont know).

[Kluddeludde]

I agree and that is why I rarely read other responses until after I have posted. It felt silly, though, to state the exact same thing. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Kludde

[arkady]

With two EP limpers, I would *consider* raising KJs to buy the button IF those limpers were poor players.

You are just being overly aggressive...but.

Letting a lonely A see the turn for free on a pretty uncoordinated board, seems silly to me. Bet the flop! You got the momentum and the position.

[tolbiny]

It felt silly, though, to state the exact same thing

Hell NO!!!! When everyone agrees with me i feel SMART!!!!
when no one agrees... well everyone else is an idiot anway /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MoreWineII]

KJo is borderline for me. Like arkady said, it depends on the limpers. Buying the button is nice though.

[MoDOH]

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do you normally raise KJo in this spot? i see your reads, but i am just ckecking b/c i remember reading at least one other of your posts really recently where it looks like you are raising kind of light preflop. I am not saying that you are makeing a bad play here, I just want to point out that I have noticed you raising light preflop so that you know (in case you dont know).

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No I usually muck KJo here but sometimes when the players at the table are right and the stars and planets are aligned I do this kind of borderline play... /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

It´s not my PreFloplay that needs working it´s my PostFlop play, well mainly that is... /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[MoDOH]

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Letting a lonely A see the turn for free on a pretty uncoordinated board, seems silly to me. Bet the flop! You got the momentum and the position.

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duly noted...