Gabe

[Michael Davis]

Previously, I had dismissed the idea of heterosexual man crushes.

-Michael

[Clarkmeister]

So what brought this on?

[Inthacup]

Who knows, but it's funny!

Cup

[El Dukie]

Oh, no, what have I unleashed...!?!

[Rick Nebiolo]

and i thought i was the only one /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ClarkNasty]

et tu Rick?

[mike l.]

"So what brought this on?"

he played cards with him last night at el dukie's. the guy's a genius. in fact theyre all geniuses and i hate them so deeply for that. if i lost 100 pounds id be more handsome though.

[andyfox]

And to think that, for a while there, I was regretting not being able to get to El Dukie's last night . . .

[El Dukie]

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if i lost 100 pounds id be more handsome though.

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More handsome than the rest of us, or just more handsome than you are now? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Matt Flynn]

is that gabe theron (sp?). blond hair, about thirty, short and thin, terrific shorthanded player?

matt

[Michael Davis]

Andy,

Despite your absence, you cost me more money than anyone else there by inventing some sort of crazy game that I could not figure out.

Here's a hand I played of Crazy Fox:

Ten-handed. Gabe open-raises from early middle position, Buzz calls to my right, and I coldcall with JcJd4dQc. I don't remember or care if the blinds called.

Flop: 6c 3d 5c

Gabe bets, Buzz calls, and I called (?). Which card should I discard? I think the worst discard would be the 4. Am I wrong?

-Michael

[mike l.]

"is that gabe theron (sp?). blond hair, about thirty, short and thin, terrific shorthanded player?"

no.

[nothumb]

I toss the J of diamonds.

Is Crazy Fox like Crazy Pineapple but with 4 cards? I'm assuming a one-card straight is legal, unlike Omaha, so tossing the 4 would be bad.

Do you have to discard again after the turn? That would be interesting.

NT

[Barry]

I would discard the J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

[Barry]

Toss 1 after the flop and 1 after the turn. It's sort of Omaha morphing to HE.

[nothumb]

That's really interesting. It must wreck your odds calculations since you can't have as many back-door draws, combo hands, etc.

I want to know the rest of the hand!

NT

[Michael Davis]

I discarded the jack of diamonds. The board paired on the turn. I lost. The nut flush draw was out, so I would have been better keeping the jacks as far as that goes.

-Michael

[andyfox]

Sorry. If it makes you feel any better, I did no better at Crazy Fox the night we played than you.

FWIW (and I don't think it's worth much), I'd fold to that flop. If I played, I think I'd discard the Qc. Only because it's unlikely anybody else would have a 4 at that point. Of course, if I wasn't sure which card to discard, I certainly wouldn't call the bet. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[mike l.]

"The board paired on the turn. I lost."

this is pretty much how this game is. someone always flops a set and someone else always flops a flush draw and either the board pairs or the flush comes and that's pretty much it.

we were having more fun w/ triple draw 2-7.

[El Dukie]

Note to self: 6-5-4-3-2 is not a winning hand in Deuce to Seven. /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[Michael Davis]

It took me about three rounds of this game to finally figure out that holding onto aces was stupid.

-Michael

[Zeno]

2-3-4-5-7. That's why it's called Duce to seven.

Someone needed to slap you up side the head.
Did you play it limit, PL or NL?

-Zeno

[JTG51]

we were having more fun w/ triple draw 2-7.

Chowaha was much more fun than triple draw.

[Ulysses]

Yeah, I love Gabe too.

BTW, Matt, maybe you mean Gabe Thaler?

[Duke]

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BTW, Matt, maybe you mean Gabe Thaler?

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That's who I was guessing that he meant. I guess Gabe is a pretty rare name for more than one person to assume the same guy.

~D

[Noo Yawk]

I'd probably play crazy fox like Omaha hi and draw only to the nuts. That being said, I would probably fold the flop.
If you want to get tricky with small non-nut flushes, you could raise the flop and drive out higher flushes that are also non-nut if you think this would work.

Do both hole cards have to play on the river?

[El Dukie]

Oh, I actually knew that str8s were no good. The problem was that I picked up the str8 6 after the first draw, and only improved to a smooth 10 low. Josh beat me with a raggedy 8 or 9.

[andyfox]

No. It's hold-em on the river, so you can play both hole cards, one hold card, or play the board.

[Noo Yawk]

Sounds like Omaha morphing into crazy Pinapple into hold em.
Sounds like fun. Try it pot limit next time, and see if that spices it up a bit. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[DPCondit]

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Chowaha was much more fun than triple draw.

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It's a great game, did you play any Binglaha? Were you at my table?

Don

[JTG51]

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[ QUOTE ]
Chowaha was much more fun than triple draw.

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It's a great game, did you play any Binglaha? Were you at my table?

Don

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I was not at your table.

I've never heard of Binglaha, so I hope I didn't play it. Buzz made us play some double Chowaha though. That was too much for me.

[DPCondit]

Nobody else called it except me, so maybe it didn't hit off too well. People did enjoy the Chowaha though, a number of people started dealing it, and 4 card Chowaha.

Binglaha is Omaha where a dice is thrown AFTER the flop betting to determine whether it is high, or high low, traditionally played pot limit.

Don

[Rick Nebiolo]

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2-3-4-5-7. That's why it's called Duce to seven.

Someone needed to slap you up side the head.
Did you play it limit, PL or NL?



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Now that I read a little about the game (and ace to five) after the fact, I realized we played it "like idiots", with me being the biggest fish /images/graemlins/grin.gif.

~ Rick

[JTG51]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
2-3-4-5-7. That's why it's called Duce to seven.

Someone needed to slap you up side the head.
Did you play it limit, PL or NL?



[/ QUOTE ]

Now that I read a little about the game (and ace to five) after the fact, I realized we played it "like idiots", with me being the biggest fish /images/graemlins/grin.gif.

~ Rick

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Yeah, I don't know enough about the game to be sure, but I thought it was a little fishy when you raise UTG then drew three. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[SevenStuda]

Wow, what a thread.........

-Dimitri

[Rick Nebiolo]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
2-3-4-5-7. That's why it's called Duce to seven.

Someone needed to slap you up side the head.
Did you play it limit, PL or NL?



[/ QUOTE ]

Now that I read a little about the game (and ace to five) after the fact, I realized we played it "like idiots", with me being the biggest fish /images/graemlins/grin.gif.

~ Rick

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I don't know enough about the game to be sure, but I thought it was a little fishy when you raise UTG then drew three. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I think I was on a steal /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

~ Rick

[3rdEye]

Ok, I might be a dumbass, but is this "Crazy Fox" game real? If not, I think it would be extremely fun and interesting. I mean, an Omaha game in which each player must discard one of their hole cards after seeing the flop? Sounds very challenging.

If it's not real, I'm going to get my buddies to play it one time anyway.

[El Dukie]

It's real. Four cards. Discard one on the flop, one on the turn. Normally played high-only, none, one, or both hole cards play. One variant we tried was high-low with both hole cards playing Omaha-style. Then you've got some additional decisions to evaluate, like trying to guess if your nut low will get counterfeited on the river.

[MrDannimal]

Do you discard before or after the flop/turn betting?

[coolhandkuhn]

could someone explain chowaha? I'm always looking for new games for my home game. Thanks

[JTG51]

http://www.coonrod.com/scot/poker/chowaha.html

[ChipWrecked]

What?!?? Gabe is not Gabe Kaplan?

[Matt Flynn]

yes that's the gabe. gabe thaler. great guy. i was thrilled to see him almost win a bracelet.

matt

[El Dukie]

After the betting. Otherwise where's the fun in that?