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TwoShedsJackson
08-26-2004, 05:43 AM
This was the first playable hand I'd seen in 40 or so, I had seen MP1 make some loose plays, and bluff at a pot or two.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (10 handed)

UTG+2 ($89.46)
MP1 ($31.67)
MP2 ($37.85)
MP3 ($52.34)
CO ($8)
Button ($3.25)
SB ($7.50)
BB ($25)
Hero ($25)
UTG+1 ($10.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.75.
Hero calls $0.50, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises to $3</font>, CO (poster) calls $2.50, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $2.50, MP1 calls $2.50.

Flop: ($13) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets $5</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($23) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets $17</font>, Hero calls $17 (All-In).

River: ($57) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Comments?

Final Pot: $57

SirArthur
08-26-2004, 07:06 AM
Fold to the p/f raise, unless MP3 has loose raising standards.
Calling a 5X the BB raise UTG is not good.

Great flop for you, why not bet out here because you are going to call a reasonable bet anyway? By betting out, you may in fact get a free card on the turn and will likely get paid off if the flush comes as he may not put you on a flush draw if you come out betting.

Were you going to check raise the turn? You now have TPTK, and nut flush draw. Again, if you're going to call an all in bet anyway, why not come out betting yourself and get some fold equity here. This is actually a great time to push all in yourself.

This is why position is so important, and why you shouldn't call large raises with drawing hands UTG. It makes for very difficult and tricky situations that you shouldn't be involved in, in the first place.

Chris Daddy Cool
08-26-2004, 07:11 AM
You should really fold this preflop after you get raised that big.

JohnG
08-26-2004, 12:44 PM
On these ratios, and it is borderline, whether to call the preflop raise depends on whether you are prepared to play for all your chips should you pair the flop.