Fischman v. Brunson

[Roy Hobbs]

This was bar none the most entertaining poker broadcast I have ever seen.

RH

[Vee Quiva]

That was definitely Doyle Brunson at his finest. He made excellent reads and went old school supersystem on the table by bullying them around with his big stack.

Does anyone know how many years Doyle sat out of the WSOP in protest of all the Binion family fiascos? Norman Chad mentioned he had sat out a few and "who knows how many bracelets he would have won"?

[jwvdcw]

Already a thread about this.

[-Syk-]

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That was definitely Doyle Brunson at his finest. He made excellent reads and went old school supersystem on the table by bullying them around with his big stack.

Does anyone know how many years Doyle sat out of the WSOP in protest of all the Binion family fiascos? Norman Chad mentioned he had sat out a few and "who knows how many bracelets he would have won"?

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Why exactly did he stop attending the WSOP ?

[Vee Quiva]

There was some Binion vs Behnen (sp) family dispute on who would run the casino after Benny Binion died. I could be wrong but I think Jack Binion got frozen out so he went off to Mississippi and started his own casino with a big tournament. The story was discussed in "Positively Fifth Street". I don't have a copy and I read it a couple of years ago, so my details are a little sketchy.

[ssomega]

Does anyone else think that Fischman would have folded his AK to anyone elses all-in but Brunson's?

I feel that he only called that first guys bet with the intention of getting out of the hand if anyone else went all-in for a sizable amount. I think he felt like Brunson was putting a move on him and thats the only reason why he called.

Anyone agree?

[benfranklin]

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I think he felt like Brunson was putting a move on him and thats the only reason why he called.


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I think Fischman over-analysed the situation, and overestimated Brunson's opinion of him. He thought that Dolly was going to great lengths to set him up because Dolly was afraid of him. I think that Brunson knew who he was, but considered him another up-and-coming very good player who had not yet proved himself to be great.

In their interviews, both Brunson and Fischman talked about how you see so many hands playing online, you learn the card part of the game much quicker. When you play against guys like Brunson and Lederer, you aren't playing cards, you are playing people. Fischman still has to learn how to play people. You don't learn that multi-tabling online.

[dakine]

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Does anyone else think that Fischman would have folded his AK to anyone elses all-in but Brunson's?

I feel that he only called that first guys bet with the intention of getting out of the hand if anyone else went all-in for a sizable amount. I think he felt like Brunson was putting a move on him and thats the only reason why he called.

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I agree!

[gergery]

Fischman had his shorts totally tangled in knots over Brunson.

It was like watching a nubile young virgin mesmerized by the old wizard

[Fitz]

This was fun to watch. It's nice to see someone like Fischman, who has more than his share of self confidence, get humbled by one of the greatest ever. The only thing missing was the line, "You're good kid, but you're not ready for me yet".

Sometimes, live is fair!

Good luck all,

Fitz

[lolita16]

My personal favorite was the post game interview: "I don't know if he (Doyle) outplayed me today, I don't know if I have something to learn..."

Let's see... you layed down the best hand on the river after getting blown off of it by playing it like a little girl. You layed down the AK when you were only a slight dog, and called all in with it when you were a huge dog. Yep, I would say he outplayed you.

Wonderful to watch him taken down a notch.

[Toro]

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Let's see... you layed down the best hand on the river after getting blown off of it by playing it like a little girl.

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Careful. I got severely criticized by a female player/poster for a similiar statement a while back. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[lolita16]

Several of the dealers at the Mirage that deal to me fairly regularly love to tease me with this line (usually in situations where it is true). /images/graemlins/smile.gif

The female poster that criticized you for that really needs to get a life. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[NoTalent]

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I think he felt like Brunson was putting a move on him and thats the only reason why he called.


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I think Fischman over-analysed the situation, and overestimated Brunson's opinion of him. He thought that Dolly was going to great lengths to set him up because Dolly was afraid of him. I think that Brunson knew who he was, but considered him another up-and-coming very good player who had not yet proved himself to be great.

In their interviews, both Brunson and Fischman talked about how you see so many hands playing online, you learn the card part of the game much quicker. When you play against guys like Brunson and Lederer, you aren't playing cards, you are playing people. Fischman still has to learn how to play people. You don't learn that multi-tabling online.

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great post. I think the people interaction is very important as well (I need more experience in that dept too!)

[Doubling12]

Uh, yeah, that's exactly what it was like...

[TwoNiner]

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It was like watching a nubile young virgin mesmerized by the old wizard

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You aren't typing this at the local junior high are you?