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Indiana
08-25-2004, 10:24 AM
Loved the way fossilman dealt with the mouth last night on ESPN....Wouldn't even shake his hand....Just responded to his comments by pulling out his notebook and making a note about the mouth! I loved it, just laughed my ass off...

Greg is so analytical...Gotta love the guy..

Indiana

eMarkM
08-25-2004, 10:25 AM
I understand there will be another confrontation between the two next week with even greater histrionics from Mr Mouth.

Indiana
08-25-2004, 10:27 AM
Can't wait...just like to watch how focused raymer is...I would probably hit the guy or something....he is completely unnerved.

Indiana

Potowame
08-25-2004, 12:18 PM
Greg more than likley felt he was getting to him with his aggressive play. Iam sure there where alot of hands that we didn't see where Greg had been running him over.

Its a classic adolesent reaction to fear, or intimidation, to make a loud insulting outburst. I would say if you don't have "The Mouth" yelling at you, you are playing too weak against him.

soxfan70
08-25-2004, 12:22 PM
I wonder if gregg still has his notes. I would LOVE to know what he wrote down there. I Absolutely loved the way you handled that jerk. Can't wait to see more.

davidross
08-25-2004, 12:24 PM
Ok...for those of us in the great white north who won't see any of these broadcasts for months, can someone please recap??

nolanfan34
08-25-2004, 12:33 PM
Very first time they've shown and identified Raymer in the whole series of broadcasts. He's in a hand vs. Matusow, and makes a laydown in a big pot. Matusow shows his hand, revealing his bluff, and then starts to rant and rave, taunting Greg telling him "you're playing with the big boys now".

Then he explains to Greg how he (Mike) has really big steel balls, and that Greg has much, much smaller testicles.

After this rant, Mike tries to shake Greg's hand, saying he's just kidding. Greg doesn't shake. He then makes some notes in his notebook, to which Norman Chad said "he's writing down Seat 1 is a jerk."

The best part was Greg didn't react, or flinch during the whole thing, like he wasn't even listening. And he had those cool sunglasses on. I think we'll be seeing more of those glasses. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Potowame
08-25-2004, 12:34 PM
Board I think

5 /images/graemlins/club.gif7 /images/graemlins/club.gif7 /images/graemlins/heart.gif9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Mouth bets T10000 Raymer Raises to T20000

Mouth RR T40000 Raymer Thinks awhile and Folds.

Mouth Turns over 44 I think and starts to yell at Greg.

Your not playing with little kids here, Ive got big nuts. BLA BLA BLA. His railbird buddy comes over , than he tells Greg he has little nuts, and keeps up it for a moment.

Sarcastically He says I was just kidding you know, and ask Greg to shack his hand. Greg refuses pulls out his little black note pad and writes down something. Mouths railbird glances at it, and laughs, it says seat #1 is a jerk. LOL

anyone add what I left out.

durron597
08-25-2004, 12:41 PM
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Board I think

5 /images/graemlins/club.gif7 /images/graemlins/club.gif7 /images/graemlins/heart.gif9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Mouth bets T10000 Raymer Raises to T20000

Mouth RR T40000 Raymer Thinks awhile and Folds.

Mouth Turns over 44 I think and starts to yell at Greg.


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This is slightly wrong but close enough, I think the board was more connected than that (one-gap I think, with three /images/graemlins/club.gifs), and FossilMan would basically never make such a tiny raise.

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Mouths railbird glances at it, and laughs, it says seat #1 is a jerk. LOL

anyone add what I left out.

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I'm sure that the "seat #1 is a jerk" rumor is not what he wrote down (though I don't actually know), because a) Greg knows that Mike Matusow is a jerk and b) That's not a particularly +EV (read: useful) thing to write down, if I had to guess it was something more like "The Mouth is looking to bluff me out of big pots with crap, must remember to snap him off" - though again I don't actually know /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Steel Pulse
08-25-2004, 12:48 PM
I could have sworn I heard Raymer say something like "I'm gonna bust you." or "Keep talkin'; I'm gonna bust you." But I was watching while playing online so it was hard to follow. Are we sure he said nothing? I loved the no-shake and the journal entry! BTW, Matusow was EVEN WORSE when he sucked out on Dewey Tomko's son and screamed "YES! I'm on FIRE!" and did a dance and whatnot. So disgusting.

slogger
08-25-2004, 12:57 PM
First of all, it was the announcer, Norman Chad, who was joking about what Greg wrote down, guessing that he wrote, "Seat 1 is a jerk."

As far as I can tell, Raymer said nothing. All of the talking was from Matusow, and then there was a little echoing comment from the railbird sidekick guy (Matusow, after his BS apology attempt, said "he doesn't get the joke," while giggling like a school girl, and then the lacky responds with something like, "yeah, he doesn't get the joke, huh huh huh." Truly pathetic.

The line you're referring to about busting someone was also Matusow. I believe the sequence of Matusow's comments went something like this:

1. That's right! You're not playing with little kids here, you know! (said with a tone that suggests Greg had been bullying the table).

2. You keep playing like that, I'm gonna bust you. (or something to that effect)

3. Something indecipherable, and then "...like steel. I got big, huge balls, and you got tiny, little...etc."

4. Aw, you know I'm just jokin', man (still snickering). Then something like "What's wrong, no sense of humor? (turning to railbird) He doesn't get the joke."

Indiana
08-25-2004, 01:16 PM
Didn't hear him say anything but I taped it and will check again tonight...Greg's behavior should be a lesson to all of us: Stay focused and don't get off track when people like Matusow mess with you.

Indiana

nolanfan34
08-25-2004, 01:17 PM
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2. You keep playing like that, I'm gonna bust you. (or something to that effect)

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I forgot about that line, yeah, I remember he said he was going to bust Greg. I'll be eager to see how that effort turns out. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

gergery
08-25-2004, 02:07 PM
1. ‘Hey, Littleballs, Carry my $5 million suitcase out to the car”
2. (add your own favorites here)
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4.
5.

gergery
08-25-2004, 02:12 PM
I’ll bet he was writing down something like:

“will limp, call, then bluff on straight scare board with small pairs”, or

“my continued aggression will make him bluff reraise with nothing but his small balls”

Rick Diesel
08-25-2004, 02:26 PM
2. Only a queer would comment about the size of another man's nuts.

rerazor
08-25-2004, 06:23 PM
1st post here, that exchange last night actually made me register instead of just lurk =) Anyway I could have sworn that railbird was Amir Vahedi, he seems a lot like Matusaw too.

bunky9590
08-25-2004, 06:48 PM
3. If you played poker twice as well as you talk, you'd still suck.


4. It looks like your boyfriend back there is getting turned on by your testicle talk. You two need a room?


5. Receive his handshake only after picking his nose and wiping his ass. (no chat necessary for that one)

6. "Your mother would be proud of your antics. Why don't you get her off her knees in the alley off Freemont street so she can come see the tourney? Oh , wait, thats right. Low class toothless crack whores aren't allowed in the casino , are they?"

The mouth would really not like to get into a pissing contest with Bunky. I'd have him twice as pissed as McManus vs. Powers. Except for the fact that If he wanted to do a Sam vs. Phil confrontation, he better register a room for himself first, In intensive care.

But then again I have no problems with Mike. I wasn't the one at the table. But I sure as hell wouldn't let him be the aggressor toward me.

Steel Pulse
08-25-2004, 09:04 PM
Thanks -- that makes sense. As I said I was kind of half watching and it's hard to believe all that blathering came from one guy! What a raging jackass that dude is.

illusionS
08-26-2004, 01:16 AM
Seeing the way Raymer handled that loud mouth... or seeing Brunson wipe the floor with Scott Fishman (sp?). Watching the old pro put the moves on him really made my night.

HUSKER'66
08-26-2004, 07:54 AM
Just to clarify:

Flop: 9 /images/graemlins/club.gif 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif 7 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Turn: 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Greg put in a 20k bet and then Matasow came back over the top for the 20K plus another 40k. Greg laid it down and then all the bad behaviour on the mouths part started.

He had 4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif and started his tirade after tossing them towards Greg face up.

You all know the rest.

Husker

DonT77
08-26-2004, 05:41 PM
2. "I've already bluff-raised you over the top ten times since you sat down, jackwipe."

Prime Time
08-26-2004, 05:43 PM
Me too.
How sweet it was.

ron dogg
08-26-2004, 06:42 PM
I don't know how Greg did it. I think he'd have someone waiting in the parking lot after the event for him if he tried that with me. I was as pissed off as i've been in a long time watching that. And I know Greg wins the freakin' thing! I don't how that could be allowed in any tourney. Matusow is an [censored].

That is all,
R-