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serling
08-25-2004, 02:53 AM
I'm dipping my toes into the 100+9 SnG slowly but surely and I'm still thinking about this hand. BB won the pot and ironically, it was BB that I was heads-up with at the end, and I wound up with my first 100 win.

This was within the first few hands. One player already out. No real reads other than the guy who busted first was a dolt.

Does anyone raise preflop with less? And does anyone call BB's big reraise? To me it said he didn't want to see a flop, and I wasn't ready for a coin-flip this early. I was also concerned with what the Button might have, smooth-calling my raise.

If this were a 10+1 or 30+3, then yeah, I probably would've called or pushed. But a 100+9...?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t1300)
CO (t975)
<font color="C00000">Button (t1200)</font>
SB (t1140)
<font color="C00000">BB (t1350)</font>
<font color="C00000">UTG (t980)</font>
UTG+1 (t850)
MP1 (t1200)
MP2 (t1005)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t175</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t175, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t900</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to t1200 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t2600) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t2600) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t2600) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2600
<font color="green">Main Pot: t2600 (t2600), between Button and BB.</font>

bones
08-25-2004, 03:02 AM
Definite fold. 12x the BB is probably a little much as well.

VarlosZ
08-25-2004, 03:04 AM
Easy fold.

I also think you should've raised less (to, say, 60-75) in the first place (even calling wouldn't have been terrible). With the 12xBB raise, you're likely only to get action from a premium hand -- that is, you'd consider yourself lucky if you get a coin-flip and you're only a slight underdog. Furthermore, since you're going to (wisely) fold to a big reraise, someone who plays a hand like JJ aggressively here gets that much more equity from you.


Regards,
Jeremy

Benholio
08-25-2004, 03:13 AM
I wouldn't call with this hand.

The chances that you are dominated by at least one of your two opponents are just too high. Even with a best case scenario of one underpair and one lower ace, you barely have an equity edge.

cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Qs 507702 37.04 832640 60.74 30412 2.22 0.381
Jd Jh 727491 53.07 638225 46.56 5038 0.37 0.532
Ad Th 105149 7.67 1235193 90.11 30412 2.22 0.087

Same with 2 underpairs.

cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Qs 543273 39.63 823971 60.11 3510 0.26 0.397
Jd Jh 585435 42.71 781809 57.03 3510 0.26 0.428
9c 9h 238536 17.40 1128708 82.34 3510 0.26 0.175

The only really good situation for you here would be if the BB raised with a worse hand, or a coinflip hand, and the button is planning on folding. If you could guarantee a coin-flip with the BB heads-up, maybe you can call this. (I don't like coin flips early, but I don't have much experience in the $100+9's, and I know many posters will take a coin flip early with correct pot odds)

Michael Davis
08-25-2004, 03:39 AM
This is an autofold at any limit.

-Michael