07-25-2002, 03:11 PM
Sure, I sound cocky. But man, this hand got me thinking way more than merited, and I decided that I would have won one more bet than him if our situation was reversed. Or one less (Gulp).
He raises in MP, I 3-bet w/ Queens. He doesn't cap, so he doesn't have aces.
He's straightforward. He has KQ, a big pair, or a big ace.
Flop comes 886. I bet, and he checkraises me. He has a big pair. I don't know if he raises 99 preflop or not, so I'll say no. That leaves TT, JJ, QQ, KK, or maybe AA, but not AA, cuz he didn't cap preflop.
I call.
Turn brings a five, and I call his bet. Board is 8865.
River brings a third 8.
He checks.
Hmmmmm....I went into the tank. I don't think he has aces, and if he did, he had an easy bet here, I think. So, he must have a different pair. I beat TT and JJ, and lose to KK. So I win 2/3 of the time, so whattheheck, I bet. He calls and turns over KK.
He wins, okay, next hand.
But I started thinking. If I was in his position, what would have I done? Well, I would have capped preflop, called the flop, checkraised the turn, etc....
But lets just pretend that I played it the same way until the river. And, for whatever reason, lets say I checked the river. And, just to make my fairytale world complete, lets say he bet the river.
When I (i.e. he, in my fairytale) started to think about a river bet, the first player to act (him, me, whatever), should KNOW that the second player (me, him, who cares) doesn't have AA. Thus, a river checkraise is in order. Right? I know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that if the situation were reversed, but the hand played the same, I would have checkraised the river with enormous confidence. And he would have called.
I had to come up with this fairy tale to overcome the fact that I lost one bet more than necessary on the hand /images/smile.gif
Josh W.
He raises in MP, I 3-bet w/ Queens. He doesn't cap, so he doesn't have aces.
He's straightforward. He has KQ, a big pair, or a big ace.
Flop comes 886. I bet, and he checkraises me. He has a big pair. I don't know if he raises 99 preflop or not, so I'll say no. That leaves TT, JJ, QQ, KK, or maybe AA, but not AA, cuz he didn't cap preflop.
I call.
Turn brings a five, and I call his bet. Board is 8865.
River brings a third 8.
He checks.
Hmmmmm....I went into the tank. I don't think he has aces, and if he did, he had an easy bet here, I think. So, he must have a different pair. I beat TT and JJ, and lose to KK. So I win 2/3 of the time, so whattheheck, I bet. He calls and turns over KK.
He wins, okay, next hand.
But I started thinking. If I was in his position, what would have I done? Well, I would have capped preflop, called the flop, checkraised the turn, etc....
But lets just pretend that I played it the same way until the river. And, for whatever reason, lets say I checked the river. And, just to make my fairytale world complete, lets say he bet the river.
When I (i.e. he, in my fairytale) started to think about a river bet, the first player to act (him, me, whatever), should KNOW that the second player (me, him, who cares) doesn't have AA. Thus, a river checkraise is in order. Right? I know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that if the situation were reversed, but the hand played the same, I would have checkraised the river with enormous confidence. And he would have called.
I had to come up with this fairy tale to overcome the fact that I lost one bet more than necessary on the hand /images/smile.gif
Josh W.