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RustyCJ
08-22-2004, 08:34 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($28.60)
<font color="C00000">BB ($48.60)</font>
UTG ($36.15)
UTG+1 ($22.50)
MP1 ($30.80)
MP2 ($12.25)
MP3 ($8)
CO ($31.60)
<font color="C00000">Hero ($24.75)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1,50,50,50, UTG+1 calls $1.50, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($6.75) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6, UTG+1 calls $6.

Turn: ($24.75) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12, UTG+1 folds.

River: ($48.75) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $48.75
<font color="green">Main Pot: $48.75, between BB and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB ($48.75).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows 9d 9h (two pair, nines and sixes).
Hero shows Kc As (two pair, sixes and threes).
Outcome: BB wins $48.75. </font>

cornell2005
08-22-2004, 09:59 PM
dont ever ever bet that turn. you have too many callers, the board is too dangerous, the turn card makes too mnay peoples hands, they know you dont have a 3 or a 6 bc you raised pf, ect ect ect. any pocket pair above 7 will probably call your turn bet, and correctly so. the turn bet bluff even was a severe underbet. basically, the result is that you dont fold out any better hands. you are just building the pot where you are behind. last, the only hands you fold out are hte ones you want to stay in, since they are the ones that you are ahead of.

edit: just read your title. dont ever push that turn eitehr. i think you need to put people on a range of hands a bit more often when deciding what to do on each street. in this case, you are trying to represent a hand you could never have, and the board is such that their most likely hands will call your push anyway (mid to high pockets, or a 3 or 6.)