pacific poker

[menthemaster]

is this site any good? i havent heard much about it? what is the level of play...

and how are they on cash outs? good? THANKS! - men

[ewile]

Positives: plenty of games at a wide variety of limits. The games are super-loose! Looser than party. Really fishy!

Negatives: people complain that the software is slow. Personally, I don't find it all that slow but it is slower than the other major sites.

You cannot multi-table.

The cash-outs are slow. The place is extremely relaible, it's connected to the largest online casino, but for some reason the cashouts take 4-5 business days.

Personally, I like Pacific the soft games make up for the negatives and if you want to multi-table simply play a table from a different site.

[OrangeBaller]

I totally agree with the first response. The games are very loose especially at the low limits. It is slow at times but usually is fine. I'm not real happy about the length of cashing out but I really like it.

[westmt01]

I agree with this post agreeing with the first post.

Positives: worst players on the net, plenty of games.

Negatives: cashouts take forever, customer service is clueless, software is terrible, disconnects are frequent (for me at least - others have said they don't have any disconnect problems there).

The bottom line: the positives outweigh the negatives. The play at 5/10 is as bad as at .50/1, so you should be able to find profitable games regardless of the size of your bankroll. The tourneys are extremely soft as well. Pacific has been very good to me - I highly recommend it. Just be prepared to put up with a few annoyances.

[ChessMan]

I agree with this post agreeing with that post agreeing with the first reply.

I just started playing hold em and I started at Pacific. After almost 300 games my ROI is 46%. I started at $2.20 games, moved to $8.80 games, and now I'm playing $17.60 games. I've seen very little change in skill level. It seems that the players are very bad because I don't think I'm that good, but I make a decent profit.

One game in particular at the $8.80 game with 20 seats: I folded every hand (because they were bad cards of course) and finished well into the money ($24 winnings). There were so many maniacs they had finished each other off before the end of the third level I think. That doesn't happen all the time but usually all I have to do is wait for good cards, and raise. Then I usually finish ITM, but not always! There comes with maniacs, the bad beats.

[lefty rosen]

As one poster said the quality of play is as bad as the micro limits at the fairly rarified air of 5/10. The site is totally nuts. The 15/30 space cadet games are over too many bankruptcies for that to last......

[Webster]

Low limit games LOOK loose but in reality are not that loose at all IF you actually track the numbers.

There are many colluders and regulars on that site, many butterflies that come and go and ALWAYS 1 or 2 people sitting out that up the totally fake pre-flop percentages.

YUP - many many people go there and win and many many people stop playing there after a month or so.

Count how many hands you actually have 10 people playing.

Plsu I see the same 2 or 3 people ALWAYS playing at the same table and I've personally have seen colluding and reported it. 2 guys trap somebody - one with the nuts and one with squat - keep raising. Then when the table starts asking questions - BOTH leave within 2 hands.

[TobDog]

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I folded every hand (because they were bad cards of course) and finished well into the money

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That's great, you should write an essay and call it the "Anti-System" With all the crack-addicted players now playing poker, I am surprised that I havent heard of someone before now making the $ witout playing a hand.

tobdog

[plethodon]

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...and ALWAYS 1 or 2 people sitting out that up the totally fake pre-flop percentages.



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I don't understand that. Wouldn't people sitting out lower the PF % numbers?

[OrangeBaller]

The same thing happened to me in a SNG on Saturday. I didn't win my first hand until we were down to 3 players. Most of the SNG's are tighter than that but there's been a few that are very loose.

[Webster]

10 people in a game. 5 see the flop - 50%
8 people in the game 5 see flop - 62%

Pacific normally will have 2 people disconnected so you are playing 8 seated tables.

[sumdumguy]

People sitting out will increase the Flop % (we don't include players not dealt cards in the denominator).
Paradise for example, reports legit avg. flop %'s.

Pacific flop %'s, when I've bothered to look, are NOT avg flop %'s (by any reasonable definition of avg flop %).
However Pacific has defined it, it is simply over-reported.

Pacific games appear to by juicier.. but not by as much as their site reported stats would suggest.

[mrjim]

I agree, the games are very loose, but not as loose at the percentages indicate.

[_And1_]

i m not sure if they are juicy enought to even bother with the crappy software/discons, but i could be wrong... Thou games are pretty juice elsewhere to, so go with the look/feel, does the client do it for you play there, if not, find your own sweetspot...