River decision...

[Garland]

Location: Hideaway Card Room in Shoreline, WA (near Seattle)
Stakes: $4/$8
Players: Crazy loose and passive. The one interesting one happens to be my main opponent UTG, an elderly jocular Japanese gentleman, let's call him Yoshi. He has a fondness for check-raising, especially on the river and he is tricky. So on to the action...

SB posts, BB posts, UTG (Yoshi) limps, UTG+1 limps, MP limps, Garland has Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif 9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif and limps, SB completes, BB raps. Off we go!

Flop:

7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

I like it /images/graemlins/grin.gif.

6 players

SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, MP calls, Garland raises, SB cold calls 2, BB cold calls 2, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 drops, MP calls, Garland caps for value, SB cold calls, BB cold calls, UTG calls, MP calls. I was planning to check the turn on a non-spade card...

5 players

Turn:

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SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hmmm...now I have top pair. Too juicy to check! Garland bets!, SB calls, BB calls, UTG check-raises!!, MP drops, Garland behaves and calls, SB calls, BB calls.

4 players

River:

9/images/graemlins/club.gif

SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Garland ????

Results forthcoming...

Garland

[Hiding]

raises the river,should have folded pre flop but got lucky, Q9 suited or not suited is junk.

[bakku]

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raises the river,should have folded pre flop but got lucky, Q9 suited or not suited is junk.

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Folding preflop here is way too tight.

[bakku]

Garland, what are UTG's limping standards? You say he's tricky but don't say if he's loose or not. If he's loose I raise thinking i just rivered his two pair, if he's fairly tight I just call fearing a set.

[Garland]

SB and BB dropped out on the turn to UTG's check-raise after I paid off 2 bets. They were not present at the river.

Garland

[sfer]

With the SB and the BB in the hand after UTG checkraises the turn, I think you have to 3-bet there.

[joker122]

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should have folded pre flop but got lucky, Q9 suited or not suited is junk

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Players: Crazy loose and passive.

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Na, go head and limp.

[Danenania]

I agree with a turn 3-bet. The way you describe him he could be semi-bluffing a draw and I want the other players out of there. If he caps then leads river I just call. If he calls your 3-bet then leads river I raise. If he calls 3-bet then checks I bet.

[Hiding]

I'm not disagreeing that folding preflop might be too tight. But I am a little confused as to why (I'm trying to loosen up a little) Is it because there is going to be (in all probabilty) 5 limpers?

[Garland]

I simply called the river bet. I thought if he had 2 pair which was counterfeited, he'd check the river to me and I'd bet. But the fact that he responded to my flop cap with a turn check-raise screamed of a set that turned into a full house.

As it turns out, he only had QQ. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Garland