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steamboatin
08-20-2004, 06:00 AM
This probably goes toward table image and I know I don't have enough data to be sure but it seems that I don't get chased as much if I am dressed business casual than if I look like a homeless person.

Do your bets get more respect depending upon your style of dress? It makes a major difference everywhere else so it stands to reason poker would not be any different.

Of course there's the age old question of if you want them to fold to you and take a small pot or trade the suckouts for larger pots when you win?

spamuell
08-20-2004, 01:31 PM
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Of course there's the age old question of if you want them to fold to you and take a small pot or trade the suckouts for larger pots when you win?

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Yeah, tough choice. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

RicktheRuler
08-20-2004, 04:34 PM
Personally, I have found it is better to enter a B&M well dressed. Of course this maybe becuase I am a mediocre player. I think you are given more respect when you present yourself as someone that has been successful in something and makes other players apprehensive about trying to "out play you" I NEED THAT ADVANTAGE.

Toro
08-20-2004, 09:51 PM
Makes absolutely no difference. Being comfortable is the most important thing.

Michael Davis
08-20-2004, 10:23 PM
In order to generate more action, I started to wear crazy hats, pirate outfits, and other random accessories to the poker room. However, I did not change my game to fit the image that goes along with wearing crazy stuff. So instead of working for me, my tightness and aggressiveness were noticed by everyone at the table. Others paid much more attention to me than when I am just the quiet kid in the seven seat.

-Michael

2planka
08-20-2004, 11:09 PM
ditto'

be comfy, relax, play your best. Control what you can. The maniacs won't notice the shirt you have on.

TimM
08-21-2004, 12:25 AM
Don't worry about the players. If you dress like a slob maybe the casino personnel won't treat you as well.

Mayhap
08-21-2004, 12:35 AM
Dress as you please.
Do bathe.
/M

SevenStuda
08-21-2004, 12:58 AM
I've seen all sorts of jack-asses trying to make a point by how they dress.(wearing crazy shirts/suits/hats) It really is sad when someone takes poker that seriously. I often wonder what must be going through their minds, this is what is going through mine: 'Your an idiot, get bent'. The only thing that really matter is cleanliness and comfort. Don't dress like a bum if your not one.

-Dimitri

Lawrence Ng
08-21-2004, 03:42 AM
I usually go in the room naked and that creates a whole ton of action.

Mayhap
08-21-2004, 11:27 AM
Probably get a few raises with that eh?
/M

goofball
08-21-2004, 05:34 PM
unfortunetly it creates the possibility of a very reliable tell

Mayhap
08-21-2004, 05:39 PM
hahaha
I can just see it now: an extra pair of sunglasses.
/M

Clarkmeister
08-21-2004, 06:52 PM
LGPG

RydenStoompala
08-21-2004, 09:05 PM
You get more respect at first, but if the guy looking like a homeless person plays a flopped set to perfection and is folding a lot of garbage, he will eventually be dressed like the rest of us. Read the book "Shut Up and Deal" for some interesting theory on dress code.

steamboatin
08-21-2004, 11:01 PM
We bought a bigger house and we are remodeling. Sometimes, I stop physical labor and go straight to the gambling boat, other times, I have the business casual look. I wonder if the people play differently bacause of the way I am dressed of if I am dressed professionally, my play is more professional.

It is the kind of thing I wonder about ever since I read "Dress for Success'

Blarg
08-21-2004, 11:37 PM
Are you a man playing a table full of women?

Or are you talking about money being the thing you most want to win?

Either way, one thing for sure is that showering helps. Some guys come in after a hard day of manual labor and nobody will sit next to them. People actually leave the table when they sit down. These guys are as bad as the guys who eat fried chicken at the table and handle the cards with greasy fingers. At least with those guys, you can take a half hour off and request a deck change when you get back, if you see the guy has finally finished and cleaned off. Body odor doesn't get any better over time, though.

Poker crams a lot of people into a small space. Not many people like that, and we can definitely make it easier on each other. Bad breath comes way more easily than most people think. Body odor is usually more easily detected by someone who is NOT you. Greasy hands can make the whole experience repulsive.

Poker is also a good time to leave behind your habits of nose picking and picking your teeth and cleaning out your ears with your fingernails. All that crap is going directly onto the cards when you're done. Indulge yourself in a wild binge of orifice scraping outside in the parking lot before you come in, if that will help alleviate the craving. At least that way we don't have to see it. Everyone knows how disgusting people can be, but nobody likes to watch the proof unfold live and then get roped into it.

budman
08-22-2004, 03:46 PM
I am a mediocre player. At Foxwoods, where I normally play, on a good night I can beat or about break even at the 20-40 game.

When I go to Vegas, I always play at the Bellagio in the 30-60 game. Since the only times I am able to play there is when I am at a business seminar, I always wear my name tag to the table. This trip early in one session I argued with another player that my straight beat his full house.

I have crushed the game two of the three times I have tried this. I have saved my name tag and will wear it there next time I go whether or not I am in a seminar!

The local pros called me down with anything. I'll never forget the one pot I won with King high. What did that woman think I could have had? Talk about no respect.

deacsoft
08-22-2004, 04:43 PM
"How important is the way you dress at a Brick & Mortar?"

Not enough to significantly influence you win rate. Wear what you're comfortable in. End of story.

Blarg
08-22-2004, 06:29 PM
Nice. I wouldn't be surprised if that works very well with lots of people.

chawinski
08-23-2004, 04:50 AM
Personally, it doesn't matter how i dress because i look so incredibly young(i'm 22 and i look 15 heh). I get no respect from most player who will call my raises/checkraises without hesitation simply because i look so young and inexperienced. Although, maybe this shows how bad the B&M player quality has been in my games and not a reflection on me? Maybe a bit of both.

warlockjd
08-23-2004, 07:59 AM
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Personally, I have found it is better to enter a B&M well dressed. Of course this maybe becuase I am a mediocre player. I think you are given more respect when you present yourself as someone that has been successful in something and makes other players apprehensive about trying to "out play you" I NEED THAT ADVANTAGE.

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I find this very interesting. I have probably played only 50 B&M sessions, but my perception of the very well dressed/professional is quite the opposite. Usually, weak tight, IMO.

theghost
08-23-2004, 04:42 PM
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Personally, I have found it is better to enter a B&M well dressed. Of course this maybe becuase I am a mediocre player. I think you are given more respect when you present yourself as someone that has been successful in something and makes other players apprehensive about trying to "out play you" I NEED THAT ADVANTAGE.

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I find this very interesting. I have probably played only 50 B&M sessions, but my perception of the very well dressed/professional is quite the opposite. Usually, weak tight, IMO.

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He's probably relying on just that tight image so he doesn't get run over - if a player you percieve as weak/tight limps utg or bumps from anywhere you'll probably respect that.

theghost
08-23-2004, 04:43 PM
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I am a mediocre player. At Foxwoods, where I normally play, on a good night I can beat or about break even at the 20-40 game.

When I go to Vegas, I always play at the Bellagio in the 30-60 game. Since the only times I am able to play there is when I am at a business seminar, I always wear my name tag to the table. This trip early in one session I argued with another player that my straight beat his full house.

I have crushed the game two of the three times I have tried this. I have saved my name tag and will wear it there next time I go whether or not I am in a seminar!

The local pros called me down with anything. I'll never forget the one pot I won with King high. What did that woman think I could have had? Talk about no respect.

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Probably the absolute truth - nice tip.

Ear Muffs
08-24-2004, 04:14 AM
Dressing well may tie in to the way that you play. Looking good and feeling good can go hand in hand. I notice that when I dress well I feel sharper. It may have nothing to do with my play, but I feel like it adds to it. It creates a mindset.
Just my 2 cents.

Xargque
08-24-2004, 05:51 PM
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Do bathe.

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Or don't /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Toward the end of a B&M tourney last weekend a guy sat next to me smelling like [censored]. It was bad enough that I couldn't focus until someone cracked his AA with a set of 6's and he was eliminated.

-X

Rick Nebiolo
08-28-2004, 05:57 PM
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Makes absolutely no difference. Being comfortable is the most important thing.

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You can be well dressed and comfortable at the same time.

~ Rick

Duke
08-29-2004, 01:35 AM
I know Rolf Slotboom posts on here sporadically, so maybe he'll contribute. He took a lot of flack for an article a long time ago that discussed how to dress. I think he's just about the only person who has been published regarding dress and poker. Maybe you can find the article online.

I didn't mention the magazine's name since I think there has been some tension between them and 2+2 but you can probably guess.

~D