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Saborion
08-19-2004, 10:06 PM
Am I over-aggressive and/or too loose?

Hand 1:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t2590)
Hero (t2095)
UTG (t1450)
MP (t1255)
Button (t610)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks,

Flop: (t100) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets t50</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises to t2540 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t1895 (All-In).

Turn: (t4685) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t4685) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t4685
<font color="green">Main Pot: t4190 (t4190), between SB and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by SB (t4190).</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: t495 (t495), returned to SB.</font>

Hand 2:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed)

BB (t855)
UTG (t922)
MP1 (t515)
MP2 (t895)
Hero (t515)
Button (t2485)
SB (t1813)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t100, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t515 (All-In)</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t415.

Flop: (t1180) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t1180) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1180) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1180
<font color="green">Main Pot: t1180 (t1180), between MP2 and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP2 (t1180).</font>

Hand 3:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed)

MP2 (t1765)
CO (t1045)
Button (t770)
SB (t1950)
BB (t540)
Hero (t1020)
MP1 (t910)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Hero calls t50, MP1 calls t50, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises to t100</font>, BB calls t50, Hero calls t50, MP1 calls t50.

Flop: (t400) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: (t400) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets t225</font>, BB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">SB raises to t1850 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t420 (All-In).

River: (t3170) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3170
<font color="green">Main Pot: t2240 (t2240), between SB and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by SB (t2240).</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: t930 (t930), returned to SB.</font>

lastchance
08-20-2004, 12:59 AM
Hand 1 is a great hand. You have a lot of outs if you're behind, and TP2K is really good. Unless you have a strong read you're up against that nut straight or trips, I call. Folding is weak-tight, IMHO.

Hand 2 is just a push into the wrong hand. It happens. There are worse situations heads up.

As for hand 3, the only hand that beats you is 3 Aces. You want a lot of money into that pot.

compsolv
08-20-2004, 02:03 AM
I do not make that call in Hand 1. Call me Weak/Tight - but I do not call the all-in there that early in the tournament and with your chip position. I wait and crush the SB player later in the tournament.

I notice that the SB player is the current chip leader - I am assumming he did not get there by accident. In order for him to make this early all-in bet - he has AXs or a set. I let it go and get him later. BTW - I just checked the odds - if he has a set against your flush draw - he is a huge favorite. Obviously if he has AXs and the flush hits - it is really, really painful.

Lori
08-20-2004, 04:00 AM
(Un- Deleted, I'm a moron and cant read but I read it right at one point.)

Hands 1 and 3 seem fine to me.

Hand 2 seems somewhere between bad and dismal.

I haven't read the answers, but you are either dead in the water, or a coin toss with the caller in front of you.
If you don't believe me, run a sim vs 89cc and you may realise just how awful A2s is.
If there is no limper, then fine, fire away, but this guy is highly unlikely to fold and can have any number of hands that kill you, from 33 to A7 as well as some legitimate limps.

The ONLY hands you want him to show you are 22 or A2, throw it away and raise the blinds with Qxo next hand if you're that desperate to get rid of chips.

I'm aware that you are short stacked, and I'm very tired (hence I sound rather harsh), but really, the idea of bluffing is to get people to fold, and the idea of value betting is to get value........

Lori



Lori

Saborion
08-20-2004, 04:45 AM
This early? It's down to 5 players. And how often do someone play a flopped set like like HU on a board like that? I suppose he's happy to take it down right there and then given all the possible scary cards that can come on the turn.