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easypete
08-16-2004, 08:25 PM
Should I value bet this river? SSH says yes. Bonus question... what does BB have?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="purple">Hero ???</font>
sublime
08-16-2004, 08:32 PM
What kind of player is BB?

Pretty easy bet.
Trix
08-16-2004, 08:33 PM
yes, not close, they call [censored] and many would have check-raised the flop with a K.

BB has some pair without a K, maybe a gutshot and wouldnt have payed off. doesnt matter much really. you will be good more than 55% of the time when he calls.
Valuebettingtheriver
08-16-2004, 08:42 PM
Like my name suggests. Always value bet the river! /images/graemlins/smile.gif
easypete
08-16-2004, 08:44 PM
[ QUOTE ]
What kind of player is BB?

Pretty easy bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

SB is BB in this hand... happened earlier... loose passive. About 40-50% flops... aggression factor of about 0.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (11 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 15 BB, between UTG, UTG+1, Hero and SB.</font> &gt; <font color="purple">Pot won by Hero (15 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="purple">
SB shows Ah 9h (three of a kind, nines).
UTG shows Kd Js (flush, queen high).
UTG+1 shows 3s 3h (flush, queen high).
Hero shows Qd As (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 15 BB. </font>
TheHip41
08-16-2004, 08:58 PM
Bet the river.
sublime
08-16-2004, 09:06 PM
I would still bet here. His range of hands is just to large.
easypete
08-16-2004, 09:15 PM
OK all... don't worry...

River: (7.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 9.25 BB, between Hero and BB.</font> &gt; <font color="purple">Pot won by Hero (9.25 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="purple">
BB shows 8c 3s (one pair, threes).
Hero shows Jh Jc (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.25 BB. </font>