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housenuts
08-15-2004, 06:18 PM
what do you think about these 2 plays?

1)
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG+1 (t1260)
MP1 (t1320)
MP2 (t975)
MP3 (t1275)
CO (t1470)
Button (t2520)
SB (t1180)
Hero (t1490)
UTG (t2010)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t30, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises to t60</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t240.

Flop: (t645) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t1190 (All-In)</font>, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: t1835

Results in white below: <font color="white">
No showdown. Hero wins t1835. </font>

2)
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG+1 (t1215)
MP1 (t915)
MP2 (t1785)
MP3 (t915)
CO (t1545)
Button (t2180)
SB (t975)
Hero (t1820)
UTG (t2150)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t50, MP1 calls t50, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls t50, Button folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t250) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets t200</font>, MP1 folds, CO folds, SB folds, Hero calls t200.

Turn: (t650) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets t200</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t1300</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: t2150

Results in white below: <font color="white">
No showdown. Hero wins t2150. </font>

could i have got more money out of either of those hands or was it right to take it down when i did?

TylerD
08-15-2004, 06:28 PM
1) seems standard
2) I'd sandbag some more, probably by raising to 450.

durron597
08-15-2004, 06:43 PM
1) I would have raised a touch less (to like 250) preflop and then gone for a checkraise on that absolutely gorgeous flop.

2) I raise less on the turn.

ipp147
08-15-2004, 07:08 PM
My 2 cents

Hand 1 - attempt a check raise (all in) on the flop.

Hand 2 - flat call the turn, if he has another pop on the river then raise. If he checks to you then make a half pot sized bet.

triplc
08-15-2004, 08:34 PM
No real issue with the KK hand, although you might not want to push in on the off chance he hit trips. A nice pot size bet should be enough.

On the second hand you should have smooth called one more time, or maybe put in a minimum raise. If he's on a pure bluff, any raise will knock him out of the hand.

Let him take one more stab at this one on the river, and then come over the top.

Play well,

CCC

TylerD
08-15-2004, 08:40 PM
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No real issue with the KK hand, although you might not want to push in on the off chance he hit trips. A nice pot size bet should be enough.

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and fold to a raise?

patrick dicaprio
08-15-2004, 08:43 PM
1. on the first hand i wouldnt push in. there is nothing he could have that worries you or would call a bet here so I would make a smaller bet.

2. this is OK, i would probably do the same. but keep in mind that every once in a while you will be called here and will be out because no one can call that doesnt beat you. compare this situation to where you have one 8 on the board and two in the pocket in which case you will often be called by players you beat.

Pat

triplc
08-15-2004, 09:14 PM
Don't know...would depend on the player...I'm just saying that the pot-sized bet should be enough to make a lousy hand fold, without getting nabbed by trips. If he reraises, you have a decision to make, if he calls your all-in with trips, your decision is gone...

Play well,

CCC