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AA suited
08-15-2004, 11:51 AM
Party $30/3

Prize structure
SNG: 5x/3x/2x
MTT: 9x/7.5x/6x/4.5x/3x

Time
SnG: ~1hr to complete
MTT: ~2hrs to complete

Analysis
MTT: For $33, you can win $270 for a profit of $237.
SNG: In that same time frame (2hrs), u can spend $66 and win $300, for a profit of $234.

MTT: Top 5 win $, thus 5/30 = 16.67%
SNG: Top 3 win $, thus 3/10 = 30%

No Hand Histories for MTT (you have to remember to manually request after every 100 hands, which is a pain). You also have much more variance in MTT.

So for approx the same amount of time and $ won, SnG's offer better % ITM and lower variance.

Any flaws with my analysis?

AA suited
08-15-2004, 08:53 PM
Another difference between SnG and MTT:
When ITM, you dont have to gamble for 1st in MTT. Unlike SnG's top heavy payout, it's linear in MTT. No need to take more risks than normal.

Cry Me A River
08-15-2004, 09:37 PM
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Yes:

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MTT: For $33, you can win $270 for a profit of $237.
SNG: u can spend $66 and win $300, for a profit of $234.


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In SNGs, you need to risk twice the investment for about the same return. (The ROI for winning an MTT as outlined in our post is twice the ROI for winning the equivalent in SNGs)

AA suited
08-15-2004, 10:33 PM
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Any flaws with my analysis?


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Yes:

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MTT: For $33, you can win $270 for a profit of $237.
SNG: u can spend $66 and win $300, for a profit of $234.


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In SNGs, you need to risk twice the investment for about the same return. (The ROI for winning an MTT as outlined in our post is twice the ROI for winning the equivalent in SNGs)

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hm..718% for MTT vs 355% SnG.

ok..let's use more specific tourny durations. SnG are more like 50 min. 100min for 2 SnGs vs 120min with MTT.

thus MTT are 1.2x longer than 2 SnGs

718% / 1.2 = ~600%

1) now does the higher variance in MTT make up for the $82.50 (250% difference in ROI on $33)???

2) Also, remember that top 30% in SnG are ITM vs 16.67% of MTT. How does that factor into this????

Jman28
08-16-2004, 01:17 AM
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Also, remember that top 30% in SnG are ITM vs 16.67% of MTT. How does that factor into this????

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Assuming equal skill, you will place ITM in 3/10 SnGs and 1/6 MTTs.

chill888
08-16-2004, 02:10 AM
Both formats have 10% fee and return the rest of cash.

MTT have more players / less in the money so higher variance.

That's about it in your analysis. Rest depends on your style, quality of players, opportunity/desire for big wins, desire for less variance, slower structure in MTT, etc.

Matter of taste