Some more hands I have trouble with [Archive]

fnord_too

08-11-2004, 01:01 PM

Hand 1:
This is a common situaton. I raise preflop with a biggish ace, and get bet into post flop. I think this is a fold with only one overcard and no apparent draws on the board. I did not. When I pick up the gut shot on the turn and he shows weakness, I took a shot, which I also think is a mistake. Just fold this on the flop or is there play left in the hand?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, Hero raises, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6 BB

Results in white below: 
SB shows Tc Qc (one pair, queens).
Hero shows As Jd (high card, ace).
Outcome: SB wins 6 BB. 

Hand 2:

Pre flop I just called the UTG's raise which was probably too weak. I gave him credit for two paints at least, and wanted to see what the flop brought.

I really like the the flop and c/r. I am not thrilled about the 3-bet, and went into call down mode. Given this flop should I have capped here?

I like the turn and river (it's very unlikely that they hurting me). Should I lead this turn and fold to a raise? Is calling down correct? If I had raised preflop and UTG capped it do you give him credit for an overpair and check fold the turn?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG raises, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero shows 7d 7h (two pair, sevens and fives).
UTG shows Qs Qc (two pair, queens and fives).
Outcome: UTG wins 9.25 BB. 

Hand 3:

Another situation that comes up occassionally. I flop trips in a blind. Do you lead out or check, if you check do you check raise or wait for the turn to do that. I have tried all three, but don't know which is best. Here I think I shold have bet out. It could easily look like I was taking a shot at a board that could have hit the BB. I really would have thought an ace would have bet the flop, so I went ahead and bet the turn. Is there a standard line on this type of hand? If it is to bet out, how often do you bet out in this situation when you don't have the 4?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, MP folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds.

River: (4.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero shows 4c 5c (full house, fours full of aces).
UTG shows Ah 2s (full house, aces full of fours).
Outcome: UTG wins 8.50 BB.

spydog

08-11-2004, 01:17 PM

Hand 1: With three or more players to see the flop, I fold this when I'm bet into. If I'm HU, I would raise with this raggedy flop. The way it played out, I would check behind on the turn and raise/bet the river if the A or T hits, and folded anything else. Betting the turn after he shows weakness isn't the worst thing, though.

Hand 2: I think you played it fine. I might lead the flop and 3-bet when raised. If he caps, then fold the turn unimproved.

Hand 3: I would lead the flop against 5 players and the Ace showing. Your bet will not scare the Aces, they are likely to raise. Anyone else will fold the turn if you slowplay, but might call 1 bet on the flop.

chio

08-11-2004, 02:16 PM

hand 1, fold this very non-drawy flop, very few hands he could bet with here that you're ahead of or have pot odds to call with, if you're going to play, raise. calling is a distant third