Random Axs hand

[Tosh]

UTG is a reasonable player, CO is new and I don't know him at all.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif. CO posts a blind of $25.
UTG calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO (poster) raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12.66 SB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.33 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (15.33 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds, CO calls.

Final Pot: 17.33 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 17.33 BB, between CO and UTG.</font>

[ike]

I don't think I like the flop bet, do you really want to be raised here?

[Tosh]

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I don't think I like the flop bet, do you really want to be raised here?

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Yes.

[steveyz]

Seems fine, UTG probably has 66/77, with A6s/A7s also possible.

[Saborion]

Why no bet on the turn? Trying a check-raise for value? But what if the CO had raised with a draw? No chance he'll go for a free card?

[Tosh]

Given the way CO has acted throughout the hand I'd say he has a bigger ace most of the time and a draw/underpair less.

[astroglide]

action like this is pretty much what happens with Axs in ep after 1 limper. posters only help the situation sometimes. everything seems standard.

[Saborion]

F*ck. Once again I missed the previous action. Ok, no more replying for me.

[elindauer]

That's a big pot to laydown for one bet, don't you think? I mean, I know you're probably behind, but the board does contain a straight draw and two different two flushes, and none of them got there on the river. Is it so difficult to imagine that both of your opponents are drawing?

There's even an argument for raising here. The CO's play is consistent with AQ, AJ, and he might fold to a raise but will probably overcall if you just call. How often does UTG have to be betting a missed draw for a call / raise to be profitable? Not very often.

I think raising is the best play. In light of this, 3-betting the turn in an effort to knock out the CO's AQish hand / take a free showdown / make more when you catch a spade also seems reasonable. You'd be representing a slowplayed set and UTG would likely slam on the brakes with all but the biggest hands.

So my final suggestion for the best play is: check-3-bet the turn. Yikes!

my 2 cents.
Eric

[Tosh]

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So my final suggestion for the best play is: check-3-bet the turn. Yikes!



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I disagree, its VERY clear I don't have the best hand and I'm not folding any better hands. You don't always have to call the river in a big pot, I can only beat a bluff and the action of UTG suggests he has AT LEAST 2 pair, plus I did say he was reasonable.

[elindauer]

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So my final suggestion for the best play is: check-3-bet the turn. Yikes!



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I disagree, its VERY clear I don't have the best hand and I'm not folding any better hands.

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Why do you think you can't make a better hand fold? There are many players that would fold AK now that they are facing two cold on the turn. Wouldn't you?

The point is, you're destined to call 2 cold here already. For 1 more big bet, you will fold many hands behind you that beat you. In this spot, it's worth the extra investment.

my 2 cents.
Eric

[elindauer]

Since you've stated it's VERY clear you are behind, I assume your fold was a good one. I'm still curious what they held.

Thanks,
Eric

[SomethingClever]

This looks pretty straightforward. I'm wondering why you posted it... because of the river fold? Or maybe the flop bet (which I like, BTW).

I'm going to guess CO has AK or AQ, and UTG has 77 or 66... what else could he have if he's a reasonable player?

[TwoNiner]

Limping UTG+2 with A3s probably isn't profitable. At the Party 15-30 I think it's pretty bad even with the poster. Postflop looks alright to me.

[Tosh]

I felt it standard, and thats why I posted. Sometimes its good to get a checkup on the simple hands.

[Tosh]

I have guaranteed multi way action here, the limp is standard IMO.

[Tosh]

UTG had 77 for the flopped set, CO had A8s IIRC.