SirWidebottom
08-10-2004, 04:53 AM
Hi everyone. First time poster, short time reader (well a couple of months, about how long I have been playing /images/graemlins/blush.gif). I probably totally suck but I would like your opinion on these two cowboy hands that came 3 hands apart. I'm not being results orientated, the reason I post is that I feel my biggest problem at this stage is not being able to read the board with accuracy. I'm wondering if I was too aggressive given the boards? (or just plain suck /images/graemlins/grin.gif )
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, MP3 (poster) folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, BB calls.
Flop: (17.50 SB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, BB folds.
Turn: (10.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.
River: (12.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 16.25 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 16.25 BB, between Hero and MP2.</font> > <font color="white">Pot won by MP2 (16.25 BB).</font>
Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ks Kh (two pair, kings and queens).
MP2 shows Ad As (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: MP2 wins 16.25 BB. </font>
and
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. UTG posts a blind of $0.50. MP2 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (25 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG caps</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (20.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls.
I call thinking that I may be up against AA given the pre-flop and flop aggression. I didn't think anyone would be betting like that pre-flop with low cards that could make the straight so I discounted that and decided that I was probably up against AA, AK, QQ or similar. It's still 3-handed so what can they all have?! Anyway, I thought I would check/call the river if I didn't improve.
River: (23.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG caps</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 33.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 33.50 BB, between Hero and UTG.</font> > <font color="white">Pot won by UTG (33.50 BB).</font>
Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ks Kd (three of a kind, kings).
UTG shows 3s 6c (straight, six high).
Outcome: UTG wins 33.50 BB. </font>
I'm about half way through SSH, after Lee Jones' book, a dabble of ToP and HEPFAP. I decided that i was merely overloading myself by trying to read too much too quickly so I have filed the others away until I get through (and understand and remember!) SSH.
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, MP3 (poster) folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, BB calls.
Flop: (17.50 SB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, BB folds.
Turn: (10.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.
River: (12.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 16.25 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 16.25 BB, between Hero and MP2.</font> > <font color="white">Pot won by MP2 (16.25 BB).</font>
Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ks Kh (two pair, kings and queens).
MP2 shows Ad As (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: MP2 wins 16.25 BB. </font>
and
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. UTG posts a blind of $0.50. MP2 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (25 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG caps</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (20.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls.
I call thinking that I may be up against AA given the pre-flop and flop aggression. I didn't think anyone would be betting like that pre-flop with low cards that could make the straight so I discounted that and decided that I was probably up against AA, AK, QQ or similar. It's still 3-handed so what can they all have?! Anyway, I thought I would check/call the river if I didn't improve.
River: (23.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG caps</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 33.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 33.50 BB, between Hero and UTG.</font> > <font color="white">Pot won by UTG (33.50 BB).</font>
Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ks Kd (three of a kind, kings).
UTG shows 3s 6c (straight, six high).
Outcome: UTG wins 33.50 BB. </font>
I'm about half way through SSH, after Lee Jones' book, a dabble of ToP and HEPFAP. I decided that i was merely overloading myself by trying to read too much too quickly so I have filed the others away until I get through (and understand and remember!) SSH.