Comments On My Blind Re-Steal Steal

[RPatterson]

I'm playing on UB and blinds have recently risen to 50/100. 8 players are still left and I have 1000 and change. UTG I'm dealt AQs and raise to 250, it's folded to the BB (2000 chips) who hesitates a while and then calls. I've been reading two plus two and not paying attention to the game so I'm not clear on him.

Flop is K72 with 2 diamonds. My opponent immediately bets the pot, 600 chips. The fact that he quickly clicked on bet pot rather than taking the time to look at my stack size and bet all of it, or even think a bit, make me suspicious he is using a stop n go.

But why would he use that vs. an UTG raiser? Now I'm wondering if he wants me to think he's bluffing because of his quick large bet. If I fold here I'll have 700 chips the next hand but if I double up I'll have 1900.

I decided the only way he has a hand here is if he wants me to think he is bluffing. But then why would he bet pot instead of my whole stack? Or a minumum bet? I decide that A high is good and re-raise the remaining chips, he calls with 54 of diamonds.

What would you guys have done? Do you think my play was good or overly agressive?

[durron597]

It sounds like your read was good and you got your chips in with the best of it. What are you complaining about?

Note: I probably fold with no read at all, but then again I probably push preflop (you are right around 10xBB).

[RPatterson]

Yeah I probably should have pushed. I'm not complaining about anything either, just wondering if people think the flop play was +ev.

[PrayingMantis]

First, this is not a blind re-steal steal.

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I've been reading two plus two and not paying attention to the game so I'm not clear on him

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You are making a move that is 100% based upon a read, but instead of making reads, you are reading 2+2, so you actually *don't* have any read. Why not playing without watching at all? they call it "gamble", it's fun!

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Flop is K72 with 2 diamonds. My opponent immediately bets the pot, 600 chips.

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You didn't catch any piece of it. Nothing. Your opponent is practically puting you all-in. You are practiaclly calling with ace high (your raise doesn't mean anything, since he's not going to fold for 150 more). Doing this without a VERY concrete read, is a serious mistake. And even with a very strong read ,it's questionable.

Very bad move.

[RPatterson]

It was also the right play.

[Utah]

Bad play on your part. He either has a K or a flush draw. Very doubtful he is bluffing - and if he is, its probably with an underpair which has you beat.

So, even if you get lucky and catch him on his draw he still has potentially 15 outs to beat you.

This is a very easy fold.

[PrayingMantis]

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It was also the right play.


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No. You are confusing between "lucky" and "right".

[RPatterson]

I was lucky I made the right read.

[PrayingMantis]

You didn't make any right read. This was a terrible play by you. If you want to insist it was "right", please go ahead and do so, but I thought you were looking for serious comments and advice, since that's the reason people usually post hands here.

[RPatterson]

Why is it horrible to go all-in with the better hand? If Hellmuth did it because of a read would it be horrible?

[PrayingMantis]

Here are the points again: You are CALLING all-in, with nothing. Your raise didn't mean a thing for him. This is not aggressive play. It has nothing to do with aggressiveness. You have no read on him, you said so yourself. It was a gamble, period, and as such, it was a bad play. EVEN if he's on a naked flush-draw, you are not more than 1:1, and if you don't have a diamond, it is less. A good player should find MUCH better spots to put their stacks in, especially as a caller. Easy fold.

[tubbyspencer]

The less skill you have, the better calling an all in with nothing is. So it may have been a great play /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I mean - you gotta get lucky to win - right?

[RPatterson]

Since when is ACE HIGH nothing!?

[PrayingMantis]

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Since when is ACE HIGH nothing!?


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I give up.

[RPatterson]

The strength of your hand only matters in relation to the strength of your opponent's hand. DUH

[durron597]

Did you run this through twodimes? You are BEHIND to a naked flush draw.


http://twodimes.net/h/?z=443592
pokenum -h 5d 4d - ac qc -- kh 7d 2d
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7d 2d Kh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5d 4d 555 56.06 435 43.94 0 0.00 0.561
Ac Qc 435 43.94 555 56.06 0 0.00 0.439

You have to fold on this flop.