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Aviston

08-05-2004, 03:08 PM

Just happened, my first hand of the day:

Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
4 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises, MP2 calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls, CO caps, SB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (12 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero calls, MP2 folds.

River: (15 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, SB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB

cartoonsoldier

08-05-2004, 03:11 PM

Why slow down on the turn and lead out on the river?

nolanfan34

08-05-2004, 03:14 PM

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Why slow down on the turn and lead out on the river?

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I was wondering that too. I'd lead the turn again, and if raised probably call, and check/call the river.

easypete

08-05-2004, 03:15 PM

Why not raise turn? What are you afraid of?

CO didn't raise pf. Might have 2-pair, but more often then not it's a hand like AQ, QT, or KQ. QJ would suck, but I would still raise this on turn.

Interestingly inconsistent on the river. You are pretty sure that CO will raise. A good play is to bet to have CO raise (hopefully w/ a lesser hand) and potentially make SB fold to 2-bets w/ a possible better hand. If that's the case, I applaud you for the effort, but it's Party .5/1... SB won't fold 2 pair. It looked like you felt you were behind on turn and bet river? Hmmmmm.....

chief444

08-05-2004, 03:18 PM

Bet the turn. CO could be pumping a flush draw on the flop. Check/call the river if raised on the turn. If CO wasn't pumping a draw you're probably beat.

Aviston

08-05-2004, 03:51 PM

I wouldn't post a hand that I thought I played well /images/graemlins/smile.gif. The river bet is exactly the reason I posted this. I think I talked myself into the fact that he missed his flush draw and yet might have enough of the board to force him to call. Retarded, I know, but that's the whole point of my posts on 2+2.

Aviston

08-05-2004, 03:53 PM

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Why not raise turn? What are you afraid of?

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but it's Party .5/1...

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Actually, it's UB .25/.50, which is why I didn't raise the turn. As my first orbit, I played him as if he was a general UB player, which means, he won't come alive unless he has something.

Aviston

08-05-2004, 03:54 PM

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Bet the turn. CO could be pumping a flush draw on the flop. Check/call the river if raised on the turn. If CO wasn't pumping a draw you're probably beat.

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Thanks for this post, this is what I was hoping to hear. I believe I played the turn and river backwards /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

easypete

08-05-2004, 04:00 PM

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Why not raise turn? What are you afraid of?

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but it's Party .5/1...

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Actually, it's UB .25/.50, which is why I didn't raise the turn. As my first orbit, I played him as if he was a general UB player, which means, he won't come alive unless he has something.

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Oops. I'm just so dang used to that phrase... I gotta use it everywhere.... So, let's just all pretend it's Party. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

As for the not coming alive unless he has something reason for calling the turn.... why again bet the river?

Aviston

08-05-2004, 07:52 PM

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As for the not coming alive unless he has something reason for calling the turn.... why again bet the river?

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Because I talked myself into the fact he was on a flush draw? /images/graemlins/smile.gif Ah, the memories of such a sad play. Thankfully, it's in the past.