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hummusx
08-04-2004, 01:08 PM
No particular reads, but I did not think he had AT. Odds weren't really there for a call, but with two people still in and the size of stacks, I thought I had a pretty good chance to make a lot of chips.

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saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG (t1820)
MP1 (t1215)
MP2 (t760)
<font color="C00000">Hero (t1520)</font>
Button (t1180)
<font color="C00000">SB (t665)</font>
BB (t840)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, Hero calls t30, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises to t60</font>, BB calls t30, UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, Hero calls t30.

Flop: (t360) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets t100</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t100, Hero calls t100.

Turn: (t660) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets t200</font>, MP2 calls t200, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t1360 (All-In)</font>, SB calls t305 (All-In), MP2 folds.

River: (t2725) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2725

EverettKings
08-04-2004, 01:19 PM
Definitely, definitely muck that on the flop. Don't pay 100 chips (even with 5.6:1 odds) drawing to an inside straight draw on a paired board with a caller ahead of you. You have to hit that inside draw on the turn to like your hand, and you're a rougly 11:1 dog to do that. Even if you hit, they could already have a boat or draw to one, or draw to split with you. This situation has ugliness written all over it, so get out.

JDO
08-04-2004, 01:33 PM
Your call on the flop is loose. You need no worse than 6.6 to 1 odds to draw your straight on the turn to call this bet, but your actual odds are 10.75:1. The implied odds aren't even that great because both of your opponents have fewer than half your chips (getting them all-in doesn't get you a huge pay-off). You also can't eliminate the possibility that you are drawing dead; SB raised before the flop, and could have flopped a full house. I would've folded to the flop bet.
I would've called the turn. SB isn't going to fold and you shouldn't be afraid of the flush card on the river. Keep MP2 in the hand if possible.


Just my take.

NegativeEV
08-04-2004, 04:27 PM
Always consider your outs and the possibility that they are forfeited because they improve the other players hand as well. If the other players have QQ, or QT, your catch is going to break you. If your opponents have KJ you'll split and if they have KJ hearts, they could hit the flush on the river. Obviously if they are holding AT you're essentially drawing dead. These are all likely holdings given the preflop betting pattern, so your 11:1 gutshot is more like 15:1 when you factor in your forfeited outs. Not a good play.

Cashcow
08-04-2004, 05:51 PM
I think folding on the flop would have been my move. I would put my opponent on at least a set, possible a made house. Also the fact that you are looking for 4 outs to make your straight when you may already be drawing dead.
Fold this hand.