bb troubles

4 limpers and I check in the bb with 76o.


flop= As,Ac,7s. I check, next checks, next bets, next folds, I call, next folds.


turn= Kd. I check, he bets, I raise, he calls.


river= 3h. I check and call.


I'm shown AJo. Where did I go wrong?

Well first of all, with 5 people somebody most likely will have an ace on the flop and you are drawing dead. I would always fold considering if you catch a 7 on the turn he will have a bigger boat, and your only real out is quad 7's.

All kinds of analysis runs through my head on this, but it all comes down to you HAVE to put these guys on a hand to know what to do here. To do that I think you either have to bet the flop or raise the flop. Check/call gets you no info.


Also, what did you put him on to call the river? I don't get it. If you had position on him the chk-raise on the turn might be ok to get a free showdown (or to get him to fold 8-8 or 9-9 etc.), but as it is I don't know what your logic was.


Just my opinion, you probably know better.


Treefrog

With TWO aces on the flop, I thought this increased the chance he was betting something other than an ace. Maybe a flush draw or a pocket pair. Now with a king on the turn, I thought a check/raise would win me the pot against anything but another ace (if the flush never came).


All in all, it was a very marginal situation and I probably risked too much money on it. Thanks for your thoughts Nick.

On the river, I put him on the only hand I could beat. Spades. I thought this would be very consistent with the way he would play a flush draw and it would be a shame to get out-played now on the river, so I called.


As I told Nick, I got myself into a very marginal situation and probably lost too much money on the hand.


Oh, I didn't bet or raise the flop because a check/call on the flop and check/raise on the turn would also be consistent with my having an ace. If he doesn't have one, he's gotta worry about me having one. I thought this was the best (albeit most expensive) way for me to represent an ace.

Either you should have check raised on the flop with the intention of betting out on the turn, or you should have folded on the flop.


This was a very small pot, and you took a route that would cost you the maximum to try to win it. Not a very favorable risk/reward ratio.


I would lean toward the fold in most cases, except perhaps where I know that the bettor is the type who would almost always slowplay a big hand but would try to steal with this type of board. If the bettor is unknown, passive, or tight, I say let's get on with the next hand.

I've learned to stay away from flops when the board pairs high cards and I pair the lower card. If the flop came 4-4-7 two suits, then you can bet, as your 6 can now become another out, since you can make 2 higher pair, trip 7's and a gutshot straight if a 5 0r an 8 hits the turn without the flush possibility.

Fair enough. You tried to induce a bluff on the river to get an extra bet when he would not call (and may save a bet in some cases). Good thought, I didn't consider that.


Treefrog