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River2Pair
08-01-2004, 11:11 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP2 (t905)
MP3 (t850)
CO (t760)
Hero (t1750)
SB (t780)
BB (t800)
UTG (t635)
UTG+1 (t750)
MP1 (t770)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls t15, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t15, SB completes, BB checks,

Flop: (t60) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets t40</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises to t765 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, MP3 calls t765, Hero folds.

Turn: (t1630) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1630) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1630

Results in white below: <font color="white">
MP3 shows Ks Kd (three of a kind, kings).
SB shows 4d 7c (straight, eight high).
Outcome: SB wins t1630. </font>

nothumb
08-02-2004, 01:06 AM
Pattern map!

Ask him for one next time.

NT

Jman28
08-02-2004, 01:41 AM
Wow. Yeah, I've seen bad beats, but never one like this.

How did that guy play the rest of the tourney?

River2Pair
08-02-2004, 02:47 AM
Well he'd push with about anything. I pretty much stayed out of his way. He busted KK with T8. Despite all his miracle wins though, he finished 6th. I guess you can't play that bad and win very often.

I guess I'm not really one to talk though. I made most of my chips cracking aces with my cowboys in the first round. At least its logical to want to get your chips in the middle with kings.

patrick dicaprio
08-02-2004, 08:55 AM
that is a bad one but that is also what you get when you decide to limp with KK.

Pat

Kurn, son of Mogh
08-02-2004, 09:06 AM
At least he was bluffing you and bet all-in. I got knocked out of a tournament once where I flopped top set, pushed and got *called* and beat by a guy who needed two inside runners.

Dominic
08-02-2004, 09:52 AM
hey, I've had my quad Kings - on the flop - cracked by runner-runner quad Aces...in a live, 15-30 game...with no jackpot.

Beat that! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

RowdyZ
08-02-2004, 10:21 AM
Well it was a stupid bluff but since nobody had shown strength (Kings slowplaying) maybe he thought he could steal a pot since being in the SB he could have about anything and that flop might have hit him and was ragged enough to miss everybody else. It would have been a much much worse beat if head called an allin bet from the Kings and sucked out on him like that. He was just trying to steal the pot and got lucky when he ran into the better hand, tough but I don't call it a bad beat really because the kings kinda asked for it.

RZ

naphand
08-02-2004, 01:32 PM
Yeah that is as bad as they come. The runner-runner-only-2-cards-in-the-pack draws after the flop I think are 1,081:1 (2/47 x 1/46). Although strictly speaking they probably do not have your 2 cards, so it is actually (2/45 x 1/44) or 990:1.

Your example looks better than mine but the odds are exactly the same:

Flopped set of 777 against pocket 55 (board K79). Turn 5 (lots of chips). River 5 (more chips). My opponent refused to believe he made a mistake, even after I told him what I had and suggested he check the hand history for confirmation. Never mind, they don't get any worse.... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Dominic
08-02-2004, 02:54 PM
I also had one very strange bad beat...

10-20 limit game...

I had Q-Q in the BB...It's raised to me, I reraise get one caller so it's heads up. The flop comes Q-5-5. I've just flopped a boat. I check, the other guy bets, I raise, he calls.

The turn is another 5. I bet, he raises me, I re-raise him, he thinks about it and re-raises me again! I'm thinking this is great, he's got the other Q. My Queens full is going to beat his fives full. I just call hoping to pop him on the river some more.

The river is the FOURTH FIVE! I'm stunned. I check, he bets, I call.

Of course, he turns up A-Q...he's got four fives with an A kicker that beats my 4 fives with a Q kicker.

Now that one hurt.

Cleveland Guy
08-02-2004, 03:12 PM
As long as we are on it - I'll give a story from the other side.

About halfway through a 20MTT. I have about 9K in chips - my villan has about 7K, average stack is about 5K.

He raises preflop to like 3 or 4x BB (bout 600). I look at pocket 77 and call. Flop comes 9xxr. He bets, a huge over bet, like over half his remaining stack. I think he's holding AK and trying to buy the pot, so I call. He turns over 99.

Turn: 7
River:7

I was counting my lucky starts.

Dominic
08-02-2004, 03:28 PM
That's funny...

Early in my poker career I was drawing to what I thought was an open-ended Ace-high straight...hit the straight on the turn, other guy calls my bet and he hits his nut flush on the river. I almost muck, cursing my luck. I flip over my cards to show what I just lost with...and suddenly all the chips are being pushed at me!

WTF?

Oh...his nut flush card made me a Royal.. Oops. Didn't even see it, I was so consumed with hitting my straight.

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Toro
08-02-2004, 03:29 PM
This one didn't happen but would have been hilarious if it did. I was playing 2 sngs at the same time while perusing 2+2 posts.

I was in great shape on both of them when all of a sudden I look and I'm down to 200 from over 3000. I see my opponent won the hand with pocket aces and I had 2,3o. I'm stunned and trying to figure out what the hell happened. Somehow with all the switching between the 2 tournies and this forum I managed to call an all-in bet after the flop with 2,3o when the flop completely missed 2,3 with no draws.

Can just imagine what my opponent might have been saying and doing if I hit a miracle runner, runner to beat him. But that only happens in the movies and to the other guy, not me.

Cleveland Guy
08-02-2004, 03:45 PM
[ QUOTE ]

Oh...his nut flush card made me a Royal.. Oops. Didn't even see it, I was so consumed with hitting my straight.

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[/ QUOTE ]

Please explain - I'm kinda confused. If he had the "Nut FLush" so the A /images/graemlins/heart.gif or K /images/graemlins/heart.gif (if the A was on the board) - how did you end up with the royal?

kevyk
08-02-2004, 03:47 PM
I once got all my chips in the middle with the chip lead vs. the final two opponents of a SnG. If I won the hand, I won the SnG. I had KK, and got called by QQ and KQo. The flop came rags, and the only way I could lose was if the case queen hit. Of course it did, and I was crippled.

Dominic
08-02-2004, 05:58 PM
It was a while ago so my memory of the hand isn't great...I just remember the card that made his flush - the 10spades, counterfeited the red 10 in my hand but gave me a royal while giving him a flush...so obviously he couldn't have had the "nut" flush, huh? Plus, I was new to poker and might be rembering it wrong...all I know for sure is that his flush card made my royal...

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BarronVangorToth
08-02-2004, 06:28 PM
[ QUOTE ]
hey, I've had my quad Kings - on the flop - cracked by runner-runner quad Aces...in a live, 15-30 game...with no jackpot.

Beat that! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[/ QUOTE ]


I beat some dude about a year ago who flopped quad Kings and I got runner-runner Royal Flush...

And Mohegan Suns has no jackpot, either.

He still doesn't talk to me, especially after we raised and reraised each other for the $400 or so we each had in front of us as he didn't see the Royal Flush on the board.

Oh, well.


Barron Vangor Toth
www.BarronVangorToth.com (http://www.BarronVangorToth.com)

Toro
08-02-2004, 07:04 PM
If the 10 comes on the River on the hand shown below I think i top you all. Thank god it didn't!

PokerStars Game #587528318: Tournament #2237422, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2004/08/02 - 18:52:23 (ET)
Table '2237422 2' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: Phizazz (2045 in chips)
Seat 4: Rwayne (3505 in chips)
Seat 7: mattyg2003 (1345 in chips)
Seat 1: crswan (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: Uriah (1110 in chips)
Seat 5: jetstar222 (2845 in chips)
Seat 6: Toro85 (1170 in chips)
jetstar222: posts small blind 15
Toro85: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Toro85 [7c 7d]
Rwayne said, "nh"
mattyg2003: folds
crswan: calls 30
Uriah: folds
Phizazz said, "yea u2"
Phizazz: folds
Rwayne: folds
jetstar222: calls 15
Rwayne said, "ty"
Toro85: raises 90 to 120
crswan: calls 90
jetstar222: folds
*** FLOP *** [7h 7s Tc]
Toro85: bets 60
crswan: raises 300 to 360
Toro85: raises 300 to 660
crswan: raises 300 to 960
Toro85: raises 90 to 1050 and is all-in
crswan: calls 90
crswan said, "NOOOOOO"
*** TURN *** [7h 7s Tc] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [7h 7s Tc Th] [4s]
crswan said, "10"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Toro85: shows [7c 7d] (four of a kind, Sevens)
crswan: shows [Td 4d] (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)
Toro85 collected 2370 from pot
crswan said, "not fair"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2370 | Rake 0
Board [7h 7s Tc Th 4s]
Seat 3: Phizazz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Rwayne (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mattyg2003 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 1: crswan showed [Td 4d] and lost with a full house, Tens full of Sevens
Seat 2: Uriah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jetstar222 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Toro85 (big blind) showed [7c 7d] and won (2370) with four of a kind, Sevens

mrface
08-02-2004, 09:08 PM
This is the worst beat i've ever seen -- and I'm the one who did it. 0.11% to win after the flop!

***** Hand History for Game 806300089 *****
0/0 TEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) - MON AUG 02 03:40:04 EDT 2004
Table midnight hour (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: P0keroo ( $98)
Seat 2: mooose1187 ( $59.65)
Seat 3: haw444447 ( $180)
Seat 4: KingMikeAD ( $209)
Seat 5: cn1942 ( $33.90)
Seat 7: macduce ( $100.75)
Seat 8: mrface ( $204.90)
Seat 9: CLMARTIN ( $33.45)
Seat 10: victor1972 ( $62.80)
macduce posts small blind (1)
mrface posts big blind (2)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mrface [ 9c, 9d ]
CLMARTIN calls (2)
P0keroo raises (7) to 7
mooose1187 folds.
haw444447 folds.
KingMikeAD folds.
cn1942 folds.
macduce calls (6)
mrface calls (5)
CLMARTIN calls (5)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Tc, Td, Jc ]
macduce checks.
mrface checks.
CLMARTIN checks.
P0keroo checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9s ]
macduce checks.
mrface bets (20)
CLMARTIN raises (26.45) to 26.45
CLMARTIN is all-In.
P0keroo calls (26.45)
macduce folds.
mrface calls (6.45)
Creating Main Pot with $104.35 with CLMARTIN
** Dealing River ** : [ 9h ]
mrface bets (65)
P0keroo calls (64.55)
P0keroo is all-In.
Creating Side Pot 1 with $129.10 with P0keroo
** Summary **
Main Pot: $104.35 | Side Pot 1: $129.10 | Side Pot 2: $0.45 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Tc Td Jc 9s 9h ]
P0keroo balance $0, lost $98 [ Js Jh ] [ a full house, Jacks full of tens -- Js,Jh,Jc,Tc,Td ]
mooose1187 balance $59.65, didn't bet (folded)
haw444447 balance $180, didn't bet (folded)
KingMikeAD balance $209, didn't bet (folded)
cn1942 balance $33.90, didn't bet (folded)
macduce balance $93.75, lost $7 (folded)
mrface balance $340.35, bet $98.45, collected $233.90, net +$135.45 [ 9c 9d ] [ four of a kind, nines -- Jc,9c,9d,9s,9h ]
CLMARTIN balance $0, lost $33.45 [ Jd Th ] [ a full house, Tens full of jacks -- Jd,Jc,Th,Tc,Td ]
victor1972 balance $62.80, sits out

knsmith85
08-03-2004, 01:54 PM
FTLT...

I was in a SnG the other day, and early on I get cowboys. There's a raise before me, so I go all-in. There's another caller of my all-in, and of course the raiser calls.

What do they flip? KK and AA.

And what happens? The KK's hit the straight.:)

naphand
08-03-2004, 02:03 PM
I think you need to go here Bad Beat-o-Meter (http://www.pokersavvy.com/article/badbeat.html#).

Note that the limit makes quite abig difference to the rating... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

kyro
08-03-2004, 02:51 PM
That pretty cool. Thanks nappity napp nap. Of course, you do realize you've just spawned a legion of whiners and bad beat artists. I hope you're happy, jerk.

Toro
08-03-2004, 02:58 PM
Bad-beat-o-meter just added to my favorites list.

Sponger15SB
08-03-2004, 03:35 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I think you need to go here Bad Beat-o-Meter (http://www.pokersavvy.com/article/badbeat.html#).

Note that the limit makes quite abig difference to the rating... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

yeee i just checked on a beat i had the other day...

A /images/graemlins/spade.gifA /images/graemlins/club.gif vs. Q /images/graemlins/heart.gifQ /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

all in preflop for a $120 (no-limit, obviously)

flop was all /images/graemlins/club.gif /images/graemlins/club.gif /images/graemlins/club.gif

on the river he hit the Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif to beat me.

---

Results:

Bad-Beat-o-Meter Score: 2455

haha, ahh good times, good times.

kyro
08-03-2004, 03:41 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Results:

Bad-Beat-o-Meter Score: 2455



[/ QUOTE ]

Quit whining Desdia. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

I keed I keed. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

BrettK
08-03-2004, 04:15 PM
What's the worst possible beat? I was thinking about this the other day and the best one I was able to come up with was the following:

There are ten people all-in preflop.

Player A has AdAh.
Player B has AcAs.
Player C has KdKh.
Player D has KcKs.
Player E has QcQs.
Player F has JcJs.
Player G has TcTs.
Player H has 9c9s.
Player I has QhJh.
Player J has Th9h.

Player C can win this hand only if he sees the 9d, Td, Jd, and Qd over five cards for the K high straight-flush.
If I've calculated correctly(which is highly improbable), the odds against player C sucking out are 7192:1.

Brett

BrettK
08-03-2004, 04:21 PM
Hmm. I forgot something. Player B can be completely removed. This should make the odds against the suckout 9275.2:1. I hope someone better with numbers will correct me if I'm wrong.

Brett