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akh911007
08-01-2004, 01:03 PM
Here ar ea couple hands where I thought I had the best hand. Should I have played either differently? It's a typical $10 NL game, no specific read on the villian, just that he has a big stack. Suggestions?

Hand 1:
Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="C00000">Hero ($9.35)</font>
<font color="C00000">MP3 <font color="purple">(Evil Villian!)</font> ($44.16)</font>
CO ($9.40)
Button ($5.52)
SB ($15.40)
BB ($8.10)
UTG ($10.10)
UTG+1 ($4.15)
MP1 ($10.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.05.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, MP3 <font color="purple">(Evil Villian!)</font> calls $0.10, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $0.3</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $0.20, MP1 calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, MP3 <font color="purple">(Evil Villian!)</font> calls $0.20.

Flop: ($1.60) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets $0.2</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $1.2</font>, <font color="CC3333">Evil Villian! raises to $2.2</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $1.

I put the villian on A/images/graemlins/club.gif and figured the raise as a semibluff, so I just called hoping to bet big if another club didnt fall.


Turn: ($6.20) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, Evil Villian! calls $3.

Allright, a blank. So Ill bet out again and make him pay again for his draw.

River: ($12.20) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $3.85</font>, Evil Villian! calls $3.85.

Allright, another non-club. Just bet for value and expect to take it down, right?

Final Pot: $19.90
<font color="green">Main Pot: $19.90, between Hero and Evil Villian!.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Evil Villian! ($19.90).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows 4c 3c (flush, king high).
Evil Villian! shows Tc Qc (flush, king high).
Outcome: Evil Villian! wins $19.90. </font>

Hand 2, Same Villian:
Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="C00000">Hero ($11.75)</font>
<font color="C00000">BB <font color="purple">(Evil Villian!)</font> ($45.33)</font>
UTG ($6.50)
MP ($10.75)
Button ($19.00)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.05.
UTG folds, MP folds, Button calls $0.10, <font color="CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $0.35</font>, BB <font color="purple">(Evil Villian!)</font> calls $0.25, Button folds.

Flop: ($0.80) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $0.4</font>, <font color="CC3333">Evil Villian! raises to $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.10.

I've got quite a few outs here, so I bet out and call his raise.

Turn: ($3.80) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Evil Villian! bets $0.5</font>, Hero calls $0.50.
Well, that card sucked, but his bet was small enough to call.
River: ($4.80) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Evil Villian! bets $0.5</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $2.6</font>, <font color="CC3333">Evil Villian! raises to $5.5</font>, Hero calls $2.90.
Allright, got my flush. He's been the aggressor, so I give the ole check-raise a try. Wow, didnt expect him to come back over the top of me, but I feel like I've got to call.

Final Pot: $15.80
<font color="green">Main Pot: $15.80, between Hero and Evil Villian!.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Evil Villian! ($15.80).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Kd Td (flush, king high).
Evil Villian! shows Jc Qh (full house, jacks full of queens).
Outcome: Evil Villian! wins $15.80. </font>

Any comments, suggestions?

sonataarctica
08-01-2004, 01:49 PM
On hand one you might not want to even be in the hand in the first place especially with a raise. when he re raises you on the flop this is another great opportunity to fold the hand. he has the second nut flush and since you didnt re raise him he isnt going anywhere and most likely thinks his flush is good(though he fears the ace since he never does raise you again)

Leo Bello
08-01-2004, 01:57 PM
I missed all-ins in both hands. The only way u could make him fold the first one was an all-in. And you would be risking to lose cause he was going to call you. Advice, donīt play this hand in your position. Very bad hand to limp with. You made you hand and you cannot guarantee you have a winner.
Second hand, the guy had the fullhouse, why in hell he didnīt came all-in? Anyway, with a boarded pair, always raise your flag to fullhouse. Principally, cause u can put caller on high card so having QJ, JK is a great probability in this hand.