Foxwoods 1/2 (100max) vs Online 1/2 NLHE

[Big O]

When ever I go to Foxwoods and play the 100 max NLHE game, it is night and day from the online play. Typical pre-flop raising is about $7-9 at the Woods its $15-25. The play is so much more aggressive live than online. Has anyone else seen this?

[Ghazban]

Yeah, I noticed that the one time I played Foxwoods' 1-2 game. The time charge in that game is ridiculous so perhaps the aggro approach is the way to go just to beat the rake. When I played it, I think most of the players were primarily online guys because they had the most glaring tells I've ever seen. I don't play live often enough to be any kind of tell expert but, with some of those guys, they were so obvious they might as well play with their hands face up. Due to that, I was able to get away from 2nd best hands often and also get my good hands paid off to turn a tidy profit.

[The Ocho]

Yes, the foxwoods 100 max game plays a bit loose. Preflop play is god awful. Post-flop play is even worse. Even with the 10 an hour time charge (which isn't really all that bad once the game has been running for a while and the stacks are deep) a half-way decent player should absolutely destroy this game.

Last friday there was 4k on the 100 max table I was on. With these stacks, opening raises were usually in the 15 buck range, so even with a small pair a call was correct from most players. Obviously, this stack-depth helps leading to tons of action preflop.

[schwza]

i've only played there once but didn't find it particularly aggressive - there were just a ton of people limping in with crappy hands from all positions. and there was one guy who'd call pot-sized turn bets with ace high /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[kpux]

This is funny, I'm on my way to Foxwoods in a few hours to play in this very game. I've sat it three times before, and am up a total of about $200 after maybe 8 hours of play. It is a very very easy game to beat, and I think all a good player needs in this game is patience. The pre-flop raising is kind of silly in comparison with the size of the blinds. I've seen guys raise to $15 (7.5x the BB) with KQo and the like. I've also seen people OVERCALL all-ins on the flop with A high, only to hit it on the turn.

However, despite the outrageous time charge, I think the game is still very beatable, just due to the enormous amount of money on the table and the poor play.

By the way, I'm new here and this is my first post. I mostly play on PartyPoker and at Foxwoods, 2/4 (hopefully 3/6 soon) on Party and NL100 and 4/8 or 5/10 w/kill at Foxy. Greetings, all.

[Triumph36]

I've noticed this too, both at Turning Stone and the Borgata NL, the average raise was to 7-15x the BB. I have to think part of it is that online players can click on that little box that says Fold in Turn, and can browse the Internet or multi-table, ensuring they're always doing something. At a casino, you're only there to gamble, and as a result, players are more likely to make foolish calls pre-flop. If you raise 5x the BB, you'll get 4 or 5 callers.

I happen to like it when pots are overbet consistently, while it makes it hard to get away from an overpair, you'll almost always get a caller to look you up until the turn, even if you have an overpair and they only have overcards.

[rt1]

i play this game everytime i go to foxwoods... and everytime it is by far the eaist poker game ive ever played in.

1) 7/10 people at the table suck. They watch WPT and see people push hands like 44 and have no idea of the blind/stack/pot ratio. example: I'm sitting at the 1/2NL table last thrusday and this guy buyins right away for 100$. He posts his BB UTG and gets delt 66. Look down at it right away, looks up, and says ALL IN!. AA calls him and mr. 66 is already on his second buyin.

2) AJ KQ KJ AQ - are total trap hands for these players. They can't get away from them whenever they hit top pair or any sort of draw with them.

3) Once a player has limped he will generally call any raise up to 15$. Its amazing, because if they limp and you raise to 15 in late (which i do, because they call) they call with the most disgusted look on their faces. Its an easy fold, but they will always call.

4) Some of the downsides of this game are people will call with any draw. Ideally, thats what you want. However, there was a time I moved all in with top set and was called by a flush draw, a gutshot draw, and an open ended straight draw... i lost as my hand alone was up against a few too many outs /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

its an easy game to beat. You just gotta play real tight.

[Gally327]

This game is easy to beat, but I feel that I win just as much playing 4-8 for a couple of hours. If you have a bigger bankroll I think the game is a godsend, but if you can only buy in once, I feel more comfortable buying into a limit game where I can only lose a certain amount on a rediculous outdraw. In 4-8, I usually bring like 200 hundred, get there in the middle of the night, double up, by then its time to go to classes for the day. Its a good system and has gotten me through many poor days in college. If it werent for poker, I couldn't afford my beer gut. haha
ryan

[richardn]

I haven't been down to play foxwoods yet but probably will soon...what exactly is the "10 an hour time charge"? Do they just hit you up for $10/hour to play? They don't just rake the pot? Or is that the average rake?

[The Ocho]

every half an hour, some lights in the room will go on/off, and the dealer will ask all players at the table to pay time. So, you just toss out a five dollar chip in front of you and the dealer collects it. No raking of individual pots (unlike the lower-stakes, limit tables)

[richardn]

ahhh...I used to play limit there (~3 years ago) and I remember the raking. Thanks /images/graemlins/smile.gif