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Lmn55d

07-30-2004, 08:28 PM

I think I should have either limped this or went all in
because this raise was a decent portion of my stack. What do you guys think?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG+1 (t830)
MP1 (t1585)
MP2 (t850)
Hero (t670)
CO (t1315)
Button (t800)
SB (t695)
BB (t470)
UTG (t785)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t50, 1 fold, MP1 calls t50, MP2 calls t50, Hero raises to t150, 2 folds, SB calls t125, 1 fold, UTG calls t100, MP1 calls t100, MP2 calls t100.

Flop: (t800) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets t50, MP2 folds, Hero folds, SB calls t50, UTG folds.

Turn: (t900) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets t50, MP1 calls t50.

River: (t1000) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks.

Final Pot: t1000
Main Pot: t1000 (t1000), between MP1 and SB.

mcj0014

07-30-2004, 10:04 PM

I would have limped or raised to 250. I also definitely would not have bet minimum into that flop. Either put something out there that is going to dissuade them or check.

mcj0014

07-30-2004, 10:26 PM

This is what happens when I call stuff with big pocket pairs. I might as well have pushed pre-flop.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO (t730)
Button (t2100)
SB (t670)
Hero (t980)
UTG (t1245)
UTG+1 (t645)
MP1 (t1230)
MP2 (t400)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG raises to t125, UTG+1 calls t125, MP1 calls t125, 4 folds, Hero calls t110,

Flop: (t510) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
Hero bets t855 (All-In), UTG raises to t1120 (All-In), UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: (t2485) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t2485) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t2485
Main Pot: t2220 (t2220), between Hero and UTG. > Pot won by UTG (t2220).
Pot 2: t265 (t265), returned to UTG.

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Qs Qh (two pair, queens and sevens).
UTG shows Kd Ks (two pair, kings and sevens).
Outcome: UTG wins t2485.

z32fanatic

07-31-2004, 01:15 PM

I would definitely have pushed here. With the limpers and blinds there the pot is already 225, which would increase your stack to 915, making you very healthy. If someone calls, you're most likely a coinflip. I push it everytime here.

Ken Morris

07-31-2004, 01:34 PM

I agree. Sklansky touches on this in TPAP, I think. His point being that your best chance with AK or AQ in this situation is to win it PF, OR to see ALL seven cards. The example hand is typical. You might hit broadway or back into the flush, but probably only if all the money's in PF.

Potowame

07-31-2004, 02:59 PM

Well seeing that Hand, I think WOW thats a loose table. I would feel that With AQs at this table would be a good push with your stack size. #1 A raise to T150 did not run anyone off, you had 4 callers. So, in the future you need to take into account the FE that you have. At best you wan't one caller, really you want this hand preflop uncontested. I would say by previous action at this table you could tell that You where going to get multi callers, so really take that into account next time you are trying to figure the correct amount to raise.
#2 At a loose table as this appears to be you will get action with a Dominated A, KQ , KJ, 22-99 ect.,ect. If you run into AK QQ-AA so be it. But, I Feel that the Large Majority of the Time your AQS is good in this situation, or a coin flip to a smaller pair.