InterPoker New Bonus Structure

[Thythe]

1. Get up to $90 Free in August!!

The InterPoker promotions have changed. You will now be able to satisfy the ECash Direct Match Deposit Bonus in the Poker Room!

In order to receive a bonus you need to make a deposit. We will match your first deposit of the month over $25 with a 100% bonus up to $90!

Initially you will not be able to use the bonus in the poker room until you satisfy the wagering requirement. The wagering requirement is five times the bonus amount in Poker raked hands.

For example a $50 deposit will get a $50 bonus, and you will have to wager 250 raked hands in the poker room before you can withdraw the bonus or play it.

Please note we will no longer be running the $50 for 300 hands promotion.

[Uston]

Does this mean no more monthly casino bonus?

[Thythe]

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Does this mean no more monthly casino bonus?

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That's what it sounds like. I'm sure this will suck for a lot of people, but considering I've busted out several months in a row, I was never going to get anything from the casino anyway (I bet my internal WR is like 50000).

[cthomer5000]

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Does this mean no more monthly casino bonus?

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That's what it sounds like. I'm sure this will suck for a lot of people, but considering I've busted out several months in a row, I was never going to get anything from the casino anyway (I bet my internal WR is like 50000).

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Same here. This benefits more people I think, but certainly cuts down the bonus amount for some.

So instead of $50 for 300 hands, it'll be $90 for 450 hands. This will definitely work out better for me, as the casino has just killed me for like 3 months straight.

[josie_wales]

So,

Is this saying that each month ...

A $90 bonus for 450 raked hands is available?

Oh please say yes.

jw

[Zwiggelte]

YES it is.

[Uston]

Thanks. That was also my impression. I hope it's not true.

Out of curiosity, where did you see this info? I don't see anything about it on interpoker.com

[Thythe]

I got it in an e-mail. I assume everyone will get it eventually. I'm glad there's more bonus money for the poker room. I love playing there, the players suck. If only the software was faster as 450 hands will take awhile.

[djcolts]

Any word on the other 5 US-friendly Crypto sites?

[Thythe]

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Any word on the other 5 US-friendly Crypto sites?

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I was wondering that myself but I haven't seen any news on them yet. I imagine we could see changes in the other ones that have casinos, especially Carribean Sun and William Hill. I'm guessing this change could come as people are seriously abusing the bonuses in the casinos (myself included).

[alfman]

I think so, but it appears as though we must make a deposit every month....so the bonus is really only 89 bucks if you cash out every month!

[cthomer5000]

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I think so, but it appears as though we must make a deposit every month....so the bonus is really only 89 bucks if you cash out every month!

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Good point. Still, I'll take the $89 bonus for 450 hands against terrible players each month. If only the software weren't horrendously slow, it wouldn't feel like work as much as it does.

[alfman]

Depositing every month does sux for us Firepay users due to the 2 week hold the crypto sites put on Firepay deposits.

*No get Neteller replies are needed...I live in Maryland and can't open up a Neteller acct.

[ewile]

damn...I made alot of $$ on the Casino end over the past 10 months or so. I'm kinda bummed.

[Lazymeatball]

For the past few months I've just been depositing for the casino match bonus and not playing it, letting it build up to around $450. I wonder if I will have to clear this the old way through the casino (god knows what my WR is by now) or if I can clear this the new way through the poker room. Any opinions?

[Uston]

I just received the email, and, having reread it, I'm less convinced that this policy will affect InterCasino's monthly bonus. I guess I'll know for sure in a couple days.

[villafan]

From the mail I have gotten, I think it seems like the bonus is tougher to clear. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems like it have to be hands that we contibrute with rake.

Am I wrong?

From the mail: "For example a $50 deposit will get a $50 bonus, and you will have to wager 250 raked hands in the poker room before you can withdraw the bonus or play it."

Take note: "you will have to wager....".

This looks pretty bad.

[Thythe]

I just got another email from Intercasino. It appears the casino bonus is alive and well too:

August is another month with a hot FREE BONUS offer for every player at InterCasino! All you have to do is decide how much FREE money you want to get.
Make your first deposit of the month $25 or more, and we will match it 100% up to a maximum of $90!

I guess we'll see in a couple of days...

[Fraubump]

I interpet it as exactly what it says: "The InterPoker promotions have changed. You will now be able to satisfy the ECash Direct Match Deposit Bonus in the Poker Room!"

This would not mean you can't satisy it in the casino as you have done in the past, just that you now have the option of doing it by playing poker as described. The upshot for us is that, instead of a casino bonus and poker hand bonus (90+50), we now just get the deposit bonus, however you choose to clear it. A question that remains: What if I have carried over wagering requirements? Do I have to play those off in poker also before I can start getting the bonus cleared?

of course, this is just a guess: how it really works may be different. Anyone brave enough to call and try to get a straightforward answer out of them?

So if I'm right, who's gonna still do it by playing blackjack and who's going to do it by poker?

[UncleDuke]

I'm reasonably sure Fraubump has it right: those of us who had been doing both the casino bonus and the poker bonus will net $50 less in bonus per month now. Technically what happened is the $50 bonus for 300 poker hands played went away. The casino deposit bonus is still there, but we now have the option to clear that through poker if we prefer.

[cthomer5000]

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I'm reasonably sure Fraubump has it right: those of us who had been doing both the casino bonus and the poker bonus will net $50 less in bonus per month now. Technically what happened is the $50 bonus for 300 poker hands played went away. The casino deposit bonus is still there, but we now have the option to clear that through poker if we prefer.

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This is my interpretation, and the pretty obvious interpretation IMHO.

[villafan]

It seems right.

But I'm having some problems with this sentence from the mail: From the mail: "For example a $50 deposit will get a $50 bonus, and you will have to wager 250 raked hands in the poker room before you can withdraw the bonus or play it."

I think the "you will have to wager...." means we have gotten a tougher bonus to clear.

Hope I'm wrong, but I dont like the info in the mail at all.

[Thythe]

I think that they just have slightly different language than the normal poker terms. I doubt they would change it from raked hands to actually having to wager in the hand. That would be an extreme change.

[UncleDuke]

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I think that they just have slightly different language than the normal poker terms. I doubt they would change it from raked hands to actually having to wager in the hand. That would be an extreme change.

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Agreed. That's probably just carryover from the casino terminology. If for no other reason than that it would require coding changes in how hands are tallied up, I doubt they'd be doing that.

[jmark]

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Does this mean no more monthly casino bonus?

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In the email I got it said this at the bottom:
Please note we will no longer be running the $50 for 300 hands promotion

[csuf_gambler]

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Does this mean no more monthly casino bonus?

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In the email I got it said this at the bottom:
Please note we will no longer be running the $50 for 300 hands promotion

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his asking about the $100 casino match bonus, not the poker bonus

[Drunk Bob]

This seems like bad news since Intercasino has been my cash cow.

But I think I see the way to adjust.

[HoosierFan]

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I think so, but it appears as though we must make a deposit every month....so the bonus is really only 89 bucks if you cash out every month!

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What, do they charge a $1 to cash out?

[csuf_gambler]

werd.

i have cleared the casino bonuse every month and alot of times with +$100 profits

[umdpoker]

i just wanted to pint out that unless you are a horrible poker player, this bonus has about the same ev as before. i would say that an avg of $50 profit from playing 450 raked hands is very reasonable, especially considering that their lowest level is 1/2 limit or .5/1 nl. oh yeah, and there are some crazy fish there.

[Soleo]

But if "wagered" has no hidden meaning, then why they implement such changes at all? This will only create additional work for them. Now more people will withdraw to deposit back in the next month. I always had some rest all month around at InterCasinoPoker and other Cryptos but now they simply force me to left money at their site for several days only while I play for bonus. Isn't this stupid - to force money to regularly go away from them and back? Doing empty job and declining interest on my otherwise static funds?

[Keith Fellmy]

the first few months I played at Interpoker I didn't know that I got a casino bonus. When I figured it out I had 300 bucks. So 7500 WR. I had such a good time that I ended up wagering like 14,000. Ended the session at 984 dollars. I was happy as hell. Busted out the next three months. Damn.

[naschburger2]

I called interpoker and they confirmed that the definition of a raked hand has not changed from last month. I think it is obvious that less raked hands are needed for this promotion than last month and a bigger bonus is available. For a $50 bonus you need only 250 raked hands instead of 300 and now you can get $90 if you wish to deposit $90. I think its great particuliarly if the other cryptologic sites keep there current promotions and I see no indication yet that they are changing.

[dink]

does anyone know

if you have pending wagering to complete, does that effect the poker bonus.

For example say last month I busted out after $500 worth of bets, does the extra $1000 I was supposed to bet factor into the number of hands I need to play for my poker bonus?

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[Thythe]

Damn I sure hope not. I'm probably 50K behind in wagering...

[djcolts]

FAQ about $90 promotion (http://www.interpoker.com/promotions/monthly_bonus.shtml)

The key thing to me is that the wagering is just simply the normal definition of playing raked hands that other sites have.

[UTGunner]

Only question remaining, Do you have to clear the bonus by the end of the month?

I don't think so, but if you have a boatload of prior bonuses to clear, it could be an issue.

[Soleo]

This is not an issue - they have explanation in that FAQ: current month is first in wagering.

[ChristinaB]

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Only question remaining, Do you have to clear the bonus by the end of the month?

I don't think so, but if you have a boatload of prior bonuses to clear, it could be an issue.

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From the FAQs:

I have previous bonuses that have not been cleared yet - can I clear those too?
Yes you can. The bonuses will be cleared in the order you received them. If you have an uncleared bonus from July, or before, any hands played in the poker room will count towards that bonus first. The 25 times wagering requirement will be effective for all prior bonuses.

This seems to indicate that each deposit bonus you received is kept separate, and can be released one by one (that is you do not have to clear the entire bonus pool you have accumulated to receive it in one lump sum).

Does anyone disagree with this interpretation?

[josie_wales]

When I read this it seems to indicate this:

If you had a few bonus from the casino that you went bust on...Say the last two months you busted on the first hand....

You will have that $5000 to wager(25X x $100(in bonus) x 2 (months)) to clear BEFORE you can start to clear your new $90 bonus for August

What do you think all?

jw

[UTGunner]

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When I read this it seems to indicate this:

If you had a few bonus from the casino that you went bust on...Say the last two months you busted on the first hand....

You will have that $5000 to wager(25X x $100(in bonus) x 2 (months)) to clear BEFORE you can start to clear your new $90 bonus for August

What do you think all?

jw

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I think you are right. If you lost all your bonus money in the casino, you still have to meet the bonus requirements associated with them before you can receive any new bonus dollars for future deposits.

At least you can play +EV poker to work off your arrears.

[josie_wales]

So...

I belive i have busted out of the casino the last 3 months basically on the first bet or so.

Thus, I have those 3 months, at $100 a month = $300 in bonus dollars to clear from my casino bonuses.

Thus, I will need to clear that in raked hands x 5 = 1500 raked hands....BEFORE I will start on the 450 hands for the $90 in August.

So, long story short, I will need to pla 1950 hands for $90 AND the right to get $90 a month for 450 hands in the future.

JW

[Thythe]

I'm hoping that this is not true, anyone know for sure yet? I've had a string of bad luck at the ICP casino and have busted out every month since November...

[UTGunner]

Yup

Thats why I asked about the monthly deadline. You could spread out your effort (say 1000 hands/month) until you catch up if there is no deadline. The other Crypto sites still have to be worked off, and they must be done by Aug. 31st.

Maybe someone needs to send an email for clarification.

[josie_wales]

I spoke to a customer rep at interpoker.

You DO INDEED have to work of the bonuses from the casino that you busted out on ove rthe months.

Thus, busting the $100 from november - july yields 9 busts X $100 = $900.

$900 X 5 raked hands = 4500 hands.

Then, AFTER THESE 4500 hands, you can start on the 450 hands for you $90 August bonus.

Are ALL the intercasino skins changing?

JW

[Thythe]

I think I'll e-mail them and tell them they will be losing a customer if they don't reset my WR. I think they might do it as it's ridiculous to think that I should have to play 4500 raked hands just to even clear the backlog of WR.

[Uston]

Are ALL the intercasino skins changing?

PokerPlex and Caribbean Sun seems to be the same as they've always been. Sands Of The Caribbean still shows "$100 free every month" but you can't any more info than that on the site. Those are the only other skins that I play.

[Fraubump]

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I think I'll e-mail them and tell them they will be losing a customer if they don't reset my WR. I think they might do it as it's ridiculous to think that I should have to play 4500 raked hands just to even clear the backlog of WR.

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Do let us know if that works. If it doesn't, it might be a better use of your time to try to get back even by using the Ed Miller doubling system rather than by playing the poker. I found Inter's FAQ about how the new structure works remarkably cogent. Maybe they are starting to prioritize poker a little more there.

[Thythe]

Just e-mailed and pleaded (plead?) my case, hopefully they'll write back soon.

[Synergistic Explosions]

I told you guys last month things were going to change for the Crypto sites. You called me a fool. This is only the beginning of the changes.

You all didn't really think it would last forever did you?

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It was a beautiful thing /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[djcolts]

I've never played at these sites yet (that'll change this month I think). My question is this:

If they can screw the poker player at InterPoker with this ridiculous "you must clear the previous casino matches before you can clear this month's deposit bonus" stuff - they obviously can do this with other places like William Hill and Caribbean Sun later on. So - would it be prudent to only play at Interpoker and the 3 other US-Friendly Crypto sites that DON'T have a casino match (I don't want to play online blackjack) - and wait until the policy is changed at Will Hill and Caribbean Sun (because we can all see it coming now).

Thanks in advance.

[El Barto]

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If they can screw the poker player at InterPoker with this ridiculous "you must clear the previous casino matches before you can clear this month's deposit bonus" stuff

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I don't see this as being "screwed" - if you never played the casino like me, this is bonus money just waiting to be taken at the poker table at the same clearing rate as the monthly bonus. If there is no time limit, it just means an even bigger one time bonus, the bigger the better. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Now if someone has wagered in the casino and lost, well they took their chances to earn a bonus and maybe win some on top of that and came up short. Now they have the opportunity to clear the table of bonus requirements for the money that they did wager. They can do it at the poker table (where they are winning players). And then they can get an extra $40 a month of poker bonus on top of the $50 previously offered. /images/graemlins/grin.gif No casino is in the business of forgiving your losses, so if you lost it you still have to clear it.

The best strategy for you (the Crypto newbie) may be to let the casino bonus at other sites go untouched, so if they do follow InterPoker's lead, you will have an extra one time bonus waiting for you to clear in the poker room. /images/graemlins/grin.gif Until then you can earn the monthly bonus at all the Crypto sites.

My 6 Crypto sites now provide a monthly bonus total of $318 in poker bonuses for the play of about 1675 hands.

[djcolts]

That sounds like a good strategy to me. Thanks for the tips.