Official WCOOP #3 Thread $215 Limit HE

[La Brujita]

I figured we might as well get the party started.

I am ClaudioReyna and I am in.

Good luck to the 2+2ers!

[Nottom]

I played in a "satellite" yesterday (it was actually a couple SnGs that I told myself if I won enough for the entry fee I would play in this) so I'll likely be signing up for it tomorrow.

Cya there and good luck. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Tosh]

Yeah I'm in this. Gl fellas.

[Equal]

I'm in as well. However since my pokerstars roll is so small, I may have to drop outts this one, to play in the $500 NL event instead.

[eric5148]

I'm in.

0 for 4 in satellites so far /images/graemlins/frown.gif. I'll buy in if I don't win my way in.

Screen name is the same as here.

Good luck to all 2+2ers.

[L0QTiS]

I played the smallest buy-in Limit HE event last year but this year likely not. I didn't find time to play more than 2 cash satellites to this event and didn't find my way to winning a seat. There may be one last $3 rebuy event tonight, but I work a late swing so I doubt I'll make it home in time.

I can't stand the satellite structure this year. All double-shootout and rebuy tournaments - and I seem to do poorly in both. I qualified fairly easily playing in a $30+3 MTT non rebuy super satellite last year and this year there was nothing like this format for this (or perhaps any) 2004 WCOOP event.

[Tosh]

Bump. 1000+ people in this, going to be a long tournament.

[Meatmaw]

Took a glance at many of the remaining non-rebuy tourneys. Aren't most going to be over 1000? They'd have to be to avoid any overlay, and it seems usually there isn't any overlay.

[davidross]

I'm in. I have to pick up my daughter at 3:30, so I am going to sit out for at least 20 minutes, hope I don't lose too much in blinds.

[Philuva]

[ QUOTE ]
I am ClaudioReyna and I am in.

[/ QUOTE ]

NICE! Greatest college soccer player ever and arguably the greatest US player ever.

[jdbessix]

Not playing but just wanted to wish all the 2 + 2er's that are in good luck. I live vicariously (sp) through you all. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[fnurt]

I decided to sneak out early and come play. 3pm is not the most convenient start time!

[Jason Strasser]

I too decided to sneak out.

GL, (strassa2)

[Fitz]

David,

Take your time; please don't hurry on our account. :-) I think this would be an excellent oppertunity to spend some quality time with your daughter.

Hope to see you at the final table.

Good luck,

Fitz

[eMarkM]

It's ok if you pull a Phil Hellmuth. Blinds go up every 30 minutes and you start with 2500. It'll hardly dent you.

I wish I could make it. 3PM starts are tough for me. That and my wife is sick and I don't know if I'll even be able to play in the rebuy tomorrow /images/graemlins/mad.gif /images/graemlins/mad.gif /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[eMarkM]

With the long levels and 2500 starting chips, 10 hours, easy.

[Tosh]

Yeah its great, a little like a big cash game. I've played 50 hands in the first half hour so there is a hell of a lot of play in this too.

[Nottom]

I have to say, I'm always amazed at how poor the play is in these things early on. My first table was a rockfest, with raises often taking it down ... then I moved to a tables where 5-6 handed flops are common and cold-calling is standard ... much better.

[fnurt]

Folded me to on the button with QQ, SB turned out to have KK. Ace came on the flop and I barely got charged anything. Sometimes I like limit a lot!

[Nottom]

My favorite hand so far.

I open-raise with Black 77 in MP, 2 coldcallers and the BB come along.

Flop is J-high - so I fire a bet and get one call from a coldcaller.
Turn is a midsized spade, I go ahead and fire again and he calls.
River is another spade, I check he bets and I grudgingly call to see his red AA.

Miplayed to perfection.

[La Brujita]

My table is pretty tough. I expected a softer start. I also lost a biggish pot with a flopped set losing to a bigger set hit on river.

[Prime Time]

PGA71 update at break

[davidross]

I left with 3150 chips, came back 28 minutes later and still had 3000. Not bad.

[Meatmaw]

Sorry to bring this up rather randomly, but what is a "Cash" game? I know what a ring games and sngs and mtts are, but a 'cash' game? Could someone quickly clarify?

[Tosh]

2875 at break. Lost some smallish pots towards the end.

[davidross]

I have 3030

[fnurt]

2770 at break. Was up to 3400 at one point, but cards happen. Lost a big pot with AK against AQ, flop was KJx, you know the rest...

[La Brujita]

Frustrating first hour I have 2480. Cash games and ring games are the same thing btw.

[Grivan]

Cash game and Ring game are the same thing.

As for this tournament I couldn't play because I have to work at 7pm tonight, and I know this thing won't be over in 6 hours.

[Prime Time]

Am in 40th place w/$4035 (PGA71)

[eric5148]

3055 at the first break.

The key hand:

UTG with JJ. I raise, MP calls, BB calls. Flop is J98, BB bets, I call, MP folds. Turn is another 8, BB bets, I raise, he 3-bets, I cap. River is a 2, BB checks, I bet, he calls and shows AQ. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Rick Diesel]

How many entered? How many are out at the first break? What is first paying?

Sorry for all the questions, but I am stuck at work.

[eric5148]

1272 entered.

10 people busted out.

[Nottom]

Sitting at 2732 at break time.

Only 25BB in the average stack (typical Ring-game buyin), things should start to get a little more interesting now I think.

[Nottom]

First pays 58.5K, top 135 pay something.

[Prime Time]

NM

[Tosh]

Tosh27o

[Prime Time]

$258K prize pool. pays 1st to 135th $58.5K to $254

[Prime Time]

Colchester, is that CT?

[MrGo]

[ QUOTE ]
How many entered? How many are out at the first break? What is first paying?

Sorry for all the questions, but I am stuck at work.

[/ QUOTE ]

Same here. Why start the tournies at 3pm EST? Sucks for those who have to work =(

[Tosh]

Because they last too long.

[AustinKearns]

CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME?

[bdk3clash]

[ QUOTE ]
CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME?

[/ QUOTE ]

I, too, would like to know. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Tosh, Jason--best of luck. I'm off of work today, clearing bonuses, and sweating you.

I'm a Duke grad, so I'm extra-sweating Jason. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[davidross]

They know it will take 10 hours at least, they can't leave it much later and still get any European players.

They have scheduled the more popular events on the weekends though.

[Tosh]

4335 at break 2. Lost a QQ to 99 hand against a short stack when he spiked a 9, and then played the next hand hurrendously. Pulled myself together now I hope.

[fnurt]

3877 at 2nd break. Was close to 6k but donated some to quad deuces (I had TPTK). Second time I've lost to quads so far and the 5th or 6th quads at my table in 2 hours.

[La Brujita]

I am getting hammered, down to 1830. Lost with AK, ATs, lost with a flopped sf draw. Staying alive on steals.

Well at least limit tournaments are not my strongest game. Oh wait....

[eric5148]

3430 at the second break. 416th out of 952.

[Nottom]

Pretty crappy cards for the most part between breaks, good hands ran into better ones but my opponents relative passiveness left me a bit of wiggle room.

With about 5 min before the break I go for a steal with K3s from the CO and get called by the SB (poor player). Flop is rags with a 3. Check, bet call.
Turn is a very pretty 3. Check, bet, check-raise, 3-bet, cap. River is a blank ... and hes all-in, I call and he has a slowplayed QQ.

A few hands later I flop the nut flush with AJs after raising and getting 3-bet and pick up a 2k pot going into the break.

Current Chip Count - 4015 for 304th

[davidross]

I'm at 5355. I was over 6K at one point. No big hands yet, but won a monster 4 way pot with AK on K high flop. I guy called all the way with TT, others folded on river, some kind of draw I guess.

[Prime Time]

4918 at break, got snapped off w/ KK or could have been beter. Not too many starting hands this past hour.

[Jason Strasser]

Quick exit for me... I had a horrible hand where I had top pair against a lag with AK who hit his K on the river.

Oh well... At least i suck at limit. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Ulysses]

[ QUOTE ]
NICE! Greatest college soccer player ever and arguably the greatest US player ever.

[/ QUOTE ]

Give me a break.

[AustinKearns]

Lets Gamble

[Nottom]

I'm out ... heres the hand that crippled me.

I'm in the BB with AJs. A habitual stealer open-raises from the button and I 3-bet.

Flop is J64 with a spade draw. Bet, raise, 3-bet, cap.
Turn is a 6, bet raise
River is a blank. bet, raise.

He has J6o /images/graemlins/mad.gif

I have a few chips left which I tilt away soon after.

[AustinKearns]

first your shoes, then your clothes, then your old ladies panty hose.

[fnurt]

5327 at 3rd break... 275 out of 500.

[davidross]

Down to 2957 /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Just a dreadful 5th level, dropped 3K. JJ cracked twice, 3 flush draws that missed.

Still no pair higher than J's, and I haven't made a hand better than 1 pair, so I guess I should be happy just to still be in it. Maybe this level will bring my big hands.

[eric5148]

4530 at the 3rd break. 309 out of 509.

Had it over 7k after pocket kings flopped a set. Retard coldcalled 3-bets preflop with 33. He calls me on the flop and turn. River is a 3, and a big win for me! Then the table got super-tight and my cards went cold. I've been stealing a few blinds though.

[Prime Time]

(PGA71) 3rd Break played bad!!!!! down to $3230.

Need to get cards now.
Good luck to all.

[Tosh]

6399 at break 3. Just been moved for the first time. I knew everyone's game at that table so well. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[La Brujita]

I have 6960 at break. Just lost a big tricky pot. I very very rarely check call with top pair but I felt I was behind based on a read but my backdoor flush draw then oe straight on turn didn't let me fold. Thoughts? I probably messed this hand up but couldn't find a place to fold.

I built my chip stack by being very aggressive so this is a very atypical hand.

PokerStars (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of 100.
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls,

Flop: 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot:
<font color="green">Main Pot: </font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP1 ().</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ks 9s (two pair, kings and eights).
MP1 shows Kc Jc (two pair, kings and eights).
CO doesn't show.
Outcome: MP1 wins . </font>

[vipdirect]

244 0f 500 5875

[Prime Time]

stop stealing my blinds /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[vipdirect]

looks like u got me stealing ur blinds

[Prime Time]

Just hit a huge hand w/ pocket eights in the BB.
Up to $7300 now. Villan called me down w/ what must have been AK. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[fnurt]

Crept into the top 100 for a bit, then lost a big pot with AA against AK when 2 kings flopped. Ouch. Still hanging in there with 8k.

[Prime Time]

good thing that staight came on board when I had you dominated on the Ace high flop. Iam cranking it up on this level up to 14,000 80th place.

[Prime Time]

(PGA71) Had a strong level, battled hard w/ VIPDIRECT as he was on my right. Have $16,162 for 58th place.

Got to keep playing strong game. Need cards as well.
Good luck to all in level 5.

[fnurt]

Sigh, 4800 at the break. KK just got snapped off by 77 which made a runner-runner flush.

[La Brujita]

I am struggling a bit at 9210, had AA cracked hu (big surprise) to KJo.

I think I made a very good laydown here. A smooth call by opponent on the turn and I would have been in trouble. I honestly had the blind on a middle pair like 88 or 99 most likely-of course he was the most likely to hold a 2.

PokerStars (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of 200.
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls.

Flop: 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero folds, SB calls.

River: T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot:
<font color="green">Main Pot: </font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP1 ().</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB shows 9c 9d (two pair, nines and twos).
MP1 shows Ac 2c (three of a kind, twos).
Outcome: MP1 wins . </font>

[eric5148]

12080 at 4th break. 124th out of 266.

If I remember right, I saw 4 flops since the last break. Luckily, I had pocket aces that won about a 5k pot, and A6s that made a flush on the turn to win about a 8k pot. My table only has one semi-bad player. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

I've seen 11% of the total flops this tourney. Don't know if that's good/bad or just not getting good cards.

[Tosh]

I have 11339. I have not had AA or KK once. /images/graemlins/crazy.gif /images/graemlins/mad.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[eric5148]

Out in 226th. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[bdk3clash]

Tosh--what did your opponent have when you rivered a wheel with AJ?

Forum sweat, baby!

[Tosh]

QJ.

[fnurt]

Out in 208. I was fortunate enough to hold a lot of big hands this tournament, not fortunate enough to have them hold up. That FossilMan guy went out a few hands after me too.

[La Brujita]

I am out 197. I pretty much brought my A+ game to this tournament but I just couldn't win the coin flip hands you need to win. Pretty frustrated and dissapointed right now.

Hopefully I will qualify for the main limit event. Fingers crossed.

Thanks to all who sweated.

[Tosh]

Woohoo 376 hands in and Tosh gets his first AA/KK hand, a lovely pair of black cowboys. Whatsmore they win a nice pot without showing!

[Tosh]

Btw isn't -db- a famous Stars name? He's a slowass staller. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[bdk3clash]

Is Tosh the only (confirmed) 2+2er left at this point? (144 left.)

[Prime Time]

(PGA71) Have $25,717 and in 45th place. Was as high as 20, but played a few bad hands abit to fast and to long and it cost me. Working it back up. Only 144 players left and money starts at 135. A lot of players are starting to milk the clock.

Gotta find good hands and strong play to keep moving forward.

I see Tosh is still in good luck to you and all that remain!

[adios]

FWIW I'm still in as well. In 27th.

[Capn486]

gl everyone

[Prime Time]

I am also in (PGA71) $25,717 at the break 45th place.

[Prime Time]

What is your handle?

[Capn486]

It'd be nice to be in LP when that Maka guy is the BB. You could steal from him with ANYTHING. So scared to bubble. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif Hell, he might even fold if he can check.

[Meatmaw]

Milk the clock as in they are stalling in the hopes that other tables drop faster? What do you all think of that as a strategic tactic? I tend to ignore it unless I am super-low like 2BB.

[Prime Time]

He is just in survival mode. You are correct.

[Prime Time]

It blows and Maka is still doing it.

[Prime Time]

Trying like hell. Some of my moves are getting picked off.

[Prime Time]

(PGA71)In the money with $16,234. in 60th place.
It is getting tough.
Hopeing for a run of cards to make it work for me.
After almost 7 hours getting beat. Can't wait to do it again tomorrow!
GL to all that are left.

[Tosh]

Thanks all for watching, no big finish this time. Good luck all who are still in.

[bdk3clash]

Congrats on your money finish, Tosh.

All this tournament talk got my gambooling juices flowing. I guess I forgot to update my pattern map before entering a Party $20 NLHE multi...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed)

BB (t910)
UTG (t855)
bdk3clash (t1825)
UTG+2 (t1715)
MP1 (t470)
MP2 (t2185)
MP3 (t3035)
CO (t155)
Button (t145)
SB (t1680)

Preflop: bdk3clash is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">bdk3clash raises to t80</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises to t470 (All-In)</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t470, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">bdk3clash raises to t1825 (All-In)</font>, MP3 calls t1355.

Flop: (t4165) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t4165) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t4165) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t4165

Results in white below: <font color="white">
bdk3clash shows As Ah (one pair, aces).
MP1 shows Qd Qh (one pair, queens).
MP3 shows Qs 8s (straight, eight high).
Outcome: MP3 wins t4165. </font>

[Tosh]

If I didn't know you I'd find that hilarious. Btw give me MP3's name, number and address. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Ghazban]

Congrats on your finish Tosh. I was lurking at your table for a while. I totally suck at limit tourneys though I do all right in no-limit and pot-limit so, if you don't mind, enlighten me on calling all your chips in with Q-high on that final hand. Maybe its just my inexperience (and pure suckiness) at limit, but I think I'd've folded that pretty quickly.

[Prime Time]

Cashed $636.00 for the effort. Was fun.
No limit should be better tomorrow.
Got knocked out in th BB w/ stack of 8K.
Blinds were 1.5K and 3K.
Called raise w/ 8 9 off. flop came K 9 3. bet and was put all in. was up agaimst AK and did not improve. Felt like I had to go here as it was a multiway pot before the flop.

[Ghazban]

Congrats on the finish. I caught your final hand and I agree that, with your stack size and hitting a piece of the flop, you pretty much had to end up all-in. I'm not entirely sure I'd've called the raise preflop w/89o but, as I said in other posts, I'm so terrible at limit tourneys that I'd take everything I say with a grain (=metric ton) of salt.

[Tosh]

See the separate thread for my thoughts on it. I was gambling essentially, in order to get a stack.

[Ghazban]

Seeing it in detail makes more sense. I didn't recall that you'd bet the flop, then got raised. At that point, yes, I see why you'd call your chips in. I was thinking you'd gotten bet into on the flop, not that you bet, then got raised. Again, congrats on the finish.

[Sponger15SB]

[ QUOTE ]
CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME?

[/ QUOTE ]

just go back to winning $50K at omaha....bastard!

[Army Eye]

did anybody see what transpired between the final two players??

[scarr]

Yes, I saw the heads up. It was terrible. gussiedup folded away any chance at winning it. I don't think gussiedup won one hand after they went heads up. And they were close to even then.

gussiedup's response to the rail at the end..."I hate heads up"