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cold_cash
07-27-2004, 11:45 PM
If you guys haven't seen this yet you should check it out. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
(Just click where it says "click to play")
www.jibjab.com (http://www.jibjab.com)
astroglide
07-28-2004, 01:36 AM
guy at work claims the copyright holders for the song are suing the site
Ed Miller
07-28-2004, 02:20 AM
guy at work claims the copyright holders for the song are suing the site
Parody isn't a copyright violation. Otherwise Weird Al would be out of business.
brassnuts
07-28-2004, 02:35 AM
So the plug-in is safe? I just spent a bunch of time cleaning up a hijacker. Now I use Mozilla anyways.
astroglide
07-28-2004, 11:37 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/26/commentary/wastler/wastler/index.htm?cnn=yes
Ed Miller
07-28-2004, 01:14 PM
They can whine all they want, but they have no legal case.
nolanfan34
07-28-2004, 01:23 PM
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They can whine all they want, but they have no legal case.
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The NPA of course is correct. The only case as difficult to win against a media type as this one is a libel case.
charlie_t_jr
07-28-2004, 05:45 PM
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guy at work claims the copyright holders for the song are suing the site
Parody isn't a copyright violation. Otherwise Weird Al would be out of business.
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Very true, but they are suing anyway. Claim it puts the song in a bad light or something.
M.B.E.
08-05-2004, 04:22 AM
Although the U.S. Supreme Court has held that a parody of a work is a fair use (and thus does not infringe copyright in the work), it isn't clear to me whether the jibjab animation is actually a parody of the song "This Land Is Your Land". Rather, it seems to be a political satire that uses Guthrie's song to criticize the presidential candidates.
Justice Souter's judgment in Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc. (http://laws.findlaw.com/us/000/u10426.html ) is a clever analysis of this issue. The copyright holders of Roy Orbison's song "Pretty Woman" were suing over a rap version of the song by 2 Live Crew. One of the key findings, in holding that 2 Live Crew's version was a fair use, is that it criticized the original song (by showing how bland and banal its lyrics are).
Justice Souter described parody as follows:
"For the purposes of copyright law, the nub of the definitions, and the heart of any parodist's claim to quote from existing material, is the use of some elements of a prior author's composition to create a new one that, at least in part, comments on that author's works. See, e.g., Fisher v. Dees, supra, at 437; MCA, Inc. v. Wilson, 677 F.2d 180, 185 (CA2 1981). If, on the contrary, the commentary has no critical bearing on the substance or style of the original composition, which the alleged infringer merely uses to get attention or to avoid the drudgery in working up something fresh, the claim to fairness in borrowing from another's work diminishes accordingly (if it does not vanish), and other factors, like the extent of its commerciality, loom larger."
SaintAces
08-05-2004, 01:40 PM
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M.B.E.
08-05-2004, 02:39 PM
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Parody isn't a copyright violation. Otherwise Weird Al would be out of business.
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According to this 1999 interview (http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicArtistsY/yankovic_qanda1.html), Weird Al seeks permission from the copyright holders of songs he parodies.
It may be that some or most of his songs do fit the legal definition of "parody" as set out in the 2 Live Crew case, but presumably Weird Al does not want to risk getting sued and possibly losing. (Also possible that he feels a moral obligation, not legal, to obtain permission.)
daryn
08-05-2004, 03:10 PM
maybe he just does it to be nice?
i know that coolio had a big beef with weird al because of "amish paradise", a parody of coolio's "gangstas paradise". coolio has said publicly that he never authorized the song and is actually pretty pissed off that it was made.
however, it was made with no problems.
Sponger15SB
08-05-2004, 04:16 PM
ed, apparently you aren't as big of a weird al fan as most people, but i thought everyone knew he got permission for his songs.
coolhandtom
08-05-2004, 05:21 PM
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maybe he just does it to be nice?
i know that coolio had a big beef with weird al because of "amish paradise", a parody of coolio's "gangstas paradise". coolio has said publicly that he never authorized the song and is actually pretty pissed off that it was made.
however, it was made with no problems.
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this is very true. strangely enough, weird al is in san diego this week for a concert, and was on the radio this am. he did say coolio is the only artist to ever have a major problem with his parody. Al also said he gives some sort of royalty to the original artist, but did not say how much.
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