Sticking My Neck Out - A Question on SSH's Preflop Chart

[Lost Wages]

On the tight games chart, late position, against a raise, under the exception that 3 players have entered the pot. Still with me? QJs-T9s are listed as cold-calling hands while ATs and KJs are not. Intentional or oversight? Yes, I know it's close and I should be worrying about other things /images/graemlins/laugh.gif. Chop away.

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[BottlesOf]

you mean it says fold and not 3 bet?

[HajiShirazu]

I think it's probably intentional. JTs and T9s and to a lesser extent QJs are more likely to be "live" against a raiser, and of course they also have much more straight potential. In this case you're playing mostly for the straight or flush anyway so these hands are actually better against a raise than their bigger gapped cousins.

[Lost Wages]

Yes, sorry, that's what I meant. It say to fold them.

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[BBill]

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I think it's probably intentional. JTs and T9s and to a lesser extent QJs are more likely to be "live" against a raiser, and of course they also have much more straight potential. In this case you're playing mostly for the straight or flush anyway so these hands are actually better against a raise than their bigger gapped cousins.

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I agree that JTs, T9s and Qjs are more live against a raiser but you say "in this case you're playing for the straight or flush"
If that were the case ATs and KJs would be have great flush potential.

I would assume that if this is a tight game where TPTK wins and chasing str8s and flushes is not profitable that if you have ATs or KJs and there is a raise, and the flop brings an A or a K you are probably out-kicked and it would be tough to throw thoses cards away.

[Danenania]

I think it's the combination of straight AND flush potential plus the fact that your implied odds are quite high due to pot size that make these hands sometimes playable for a raise. Also not having an A or K in hand makes it easier to squeak out a win with an undominated pair.

[BBill]

I think it's the combination of straight AND flush potential plus the fact..

Yes I see now that is what HajiShirazu is explaining, thanks