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fyodor
07-26-2004, 12:37 AM
Does anyone (besides stripsqueez) cap the turn here?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls $7 (All-In), BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.80 SB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.40 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (17.40 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 26.40 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB shows Qs Ac (high card, ace).
BB shows 6s Tc (straight, jack high).
Hero shows Td Ad (straight, jack high).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.20 BB. BB wins 13.20 BB. </font>

schubes
07-26-2004, 01:18 AM
Unless you think your outs for TP are good, I think the answer is no. If none of your straight/flush outs are dead you have 15 outs. 15/47 &lt; 1/3. You aren't winning your fair share (it's close, though).

I posted a hand recently where I raised 3 opponents against a likely straight with trips. I consider this reply my penance /images/graemlins/blush.gif

EDIT: I looked at the results, and your straight outs are indeed only to split, I think given the betting you cannot assume all outs are good, and it's even more -EV