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tourneyplayer
07-24-2004, 03:10 PM
I am planning my first trip to AC in early August. I am ready to do some damage. I am looking for two things:
Small buy-in MT tourneys ($50 or less) (during the week).
Low limit tables.

What are some good spots?
Will I even have to search?
Also, how many could I expect to be in such tourneys?

Thanks fellas.

realbad101
07-25-2004, 08:51 AM
I am by no means an AC expert, but this is what I would suggest based on my experience and what I can recall.

The only $50 NL tourney's are on Monday (I think). Both at the Borgata and the Taj. Taj is no rebuy. There are tourney's there every day at both, but after monday they go up in price (from what I can recall). Never played them, as I stick to limit.

The Borgata has very nice, very soft 2/4 limit hold em. Table will likely be a mix of rocks, fish, college kids and tourists. 5-6 players per flop. Your TPTK gets sucked out on river by 4-9 offsuit two pair. But besides that it can still be profitable. It varies though, especially during the day, you can find yourself in the midst of a bunch of regular everyday players (ie rocks), even at the lower limits, that it will be tough to make any money off of. But I suspect this is true of all casinos.

Good luck.

Luv2DriveTT
07-25-2004, 09:23 AM
The price for the Borgata tournaments has gone WAY down. http://www.theborgata.com/main.cfm?Section=play01&TabType=A&SideNav=tourname nts&Content=play04C. The Taj (http://www.trumptaj.com/casino/dailytournaments/default.asp) is still spreading the same games.

MHarris
07-25-2004, 01:25 PM
Hi tourn, Borgata is the best action spot for LLHE. 2-4, 3-6, 6-12, all pretty soft. A pretty eclectic mix, and very beatable games. The day crowd is a bit tougher than the night crowd. The Taj Mahal has the best tourney, a Monday night 50 + 15 with no rebuys, and you get 5000 chips. Try to register before 5PM, as it draws over 200 players lately. Other tourneys of note: Borgata has a Tuesday 11am 20+10 with rebuys, Tropicana has the same on Monday night and Thursday night. Borgata, Trop, and the Taj all have 1/2 blind NL ring games with plenty of lousy players also if you're interested.

tourneyplayer
07-25-2004, 02:13 PM
How much cash will I need to play right on these NL tables you speak of? What are the minimum/maximum buy-ins? It's the game I am best at, anyway. I am taking literally $500 to gamble with. If there are six players or less I am an aggressive player, and I don't know if I can stray from such. I can hold my own, though. I'm better against good players. Will I be alright? Should I expect half the table to be fish? If so, I'll have to adjust my play accordingly. Let me know what you think, though, so I don't drain half my bankroll finding out.

Thanks!

PotatoStew
07-25-2004, 07:57 PM
NL at the Taj is $60 minimum buy in, $300 max, if I remember correctly (I'm sure about the $300 max, not as sure about the $60 min). Someone said in another thread that the Borgata has the same setup, but I haven't looked at NL there.

As for the texture of the game, I haven't played live NL yet, so I can't say.

dabluebery
07-26-2004, 09:39 AM
I was at both the Borgata and TAJ on Saturday. The Borgata had 3 tables of 2/4, and 40 people waiting to play. It would have taken hours. They said they wouldn't open up another 2/4 table all day (it was 11am) so I played in the 60/300 NL game with $1 and $2 blinds.

I'd never played NL before, and it was tough to adjust to. Most pots were raised to $10-$12 pre-flop. It was a table full of young guys, who were very cavalier about everything.

Half of them were table captains, explaining why they called / raised / folded every single hand, talking about the pot odds, odds that their hand would win the pots. They knew enough poker to get themselves into trouble. The other half were maniacs. I saw one pot played with a pre-flop raise, a re-raise, another re-raise, an all-in ($200) and a call. The original raiser had 22, and put the other guy on overcards.

Basically, it was so loose, and so aggressive, that all you could do is sit back and wait for a hand to crack somebody. Then MAYBE they'd give you respect, and not go all-in when you raise.

The TAJ was a lot more accommodating, because the poker room is so huge. The place was PACKED, but I didn't have to wait too long to play 2/4, or 3/6. Soft games, plenty of calling stations.

Good luck!

MisterKing
07-26-2004, 01:57 PM
Having played only at Borgata in AC, I'd have to say my experience was different than the previous poster's. I never waited longer than 20 minutes to catch a seat at a 2/4 table, and if I were smart enough to call the poker room before arriving, that wait might have been less still. If you're going to be away from the desk where they call people, be sure to tell them to roll your name over so you stay on the list.

The 2/4 at Borgata, which often is very soft (daytime its tighter), can still be hard to beat for much in the way of hourly rate. The rake is draconian (10% up to $4), the suck-outs are plentiful due to improper play by weak, clueless opponents, and if you tip dealers or waitresses (hot) at all, your bottom line can evaoprate quickly. Push your edges as hard as you can, and bet for value on big draws, that's about all I can think of as a defense against draw-outs. The 3/6 game didn't seem all that different, and may have been more profitable for all I know.

A word of caution on the NL tables -- if your bankroll is $500 for poker, this is the wrong place for you to put your money. You'd need a lot more than that to comfortably play $300 max NL cash games. I watched the NL tables @ Borgata for a while, and have read all about them here on 2+2, and they can be brutal. Guys who have been sitting in the game for hours accumulating chips may be sitting with over $1,000, and can easily push smaller stacks out of just about any pot. Others will push even the slightest edge (or perceived edge) and put you to very difficult decisions for your whole stack. Most people in the NL game are there to play that particular game, as opposed to limit players "trying their hand" at NL for a change. My advice: hit the tourneys, and the low-limits at Borgata. You'll have a good time, and won't lose your shirt on a single bad hand. The place is absolutely beautiful, which doesn't hurt either.