QKo, preflop in MP

[Entity]

Trying to figure out if I'm playing too weak-tight. I've made some unprofitable decisions w/QKo (it's -.69BB/hand for me, lost me $26.38 in the last 2500 hands). Is this a good fold?

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PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (7 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, Hero folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 0.70 BB

[bisonbison]

Raise, call, fold.

Fold is the worst option.

[Entity]

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Raise, call, fold.

Fold is the worst option.

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Ok, same situation, KJo.

If faced with a re-raise after raising QKo -- fold?

I think this is one of my weakest hands (AJo and QKo right now are killing me).

Rob

[Danenania]

KJo you can fold.

If you are reraised with KQo, call then proceed with caution. If it is reraised and capped behind you, however, easy muck.

[Octopus]

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If faced with a re-raise after raising QKo -- fold?


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There are no hands you should limp (or raise) with that you should then muck for a single bet pre-flop. Don't even think about it.

[Surfbullet]

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There are no hands you should limp (or raise) with that you should then muck for a single bet pre-flop. Don't even think about it.

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Be very careful with this statement - there are many hands (small suited connectors, mid 1 or 2 gappers (over T) etc) that you want to play for 1 sb against a few limpers, but which you do NOT want to have to call a raise with.

Having put the first bet in makes it better to call a raise than fold, but if you suspect you will have to call a raise it is much better to fold before putting any money in. Limping with marginal hands and coldcalling raises frequently can be quite a leak.

Surf

[Octopus]

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There are no hands you should limp (or raise) with that you should then muck for a single bet pre-flop. Don't even think about it.

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Be very careful with this statement - there are many hands (small suited connectors, mid 1 or 2 gappers (over T) etc) that you want to play for 1 sb against a few limpers, but which you do NOT want to have to call a raise with.

Having put the first bet in makes it better to call a raise than fold, but if you suspect you will have to call a raise it is much better to fold before putting any money in. Limping with marginal hands and coldcalling raises frequently can be quite a leak.

Surf

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If it was not worth calling a raise, how could it have been worth limping in the first place? Even in the worst case where I was first in, the next player in raises, and everyone folds to me, I am having trouble thinking of a hand I would be unwilling to play for 3.5 or 4.5-1 odds which I would be willing to limp with in the first place. You are, of course, right: if I expect to be raised, or if I expect few callers, that will affect what hands I am willing to limp with. Never the less, having limped, I would call a single raise every time.

[Jaran]

is this a good fold?

Ummm, no. Easy raise.

-Jaran

[Jaran]

I agree for the most part. The one exception for me would be if I completed a marginal hand in the SB and the BB raised, then I might fold.

-Jaran

[Entity]

Would being in EP affect my decision on this, or is it likely still +EV to raise?

Rob

[Jaran]

Hey Entity,
The only place I wouldn't always raise this 100% is UTG, and then I raise a lot of the time. KQ is a strong hand and I want to extract as much as possible from it.

-Jaran

[Entity]

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Hey Entity,
The only place I wouldn't always raise this 100% is UTG, and then I raise a lot of the time. KQ is a strong hand and I want to extract as much as possible from it.

-Jaran

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Thanks. It's one of the hands that has given me the most troubles. I'll learn to adjust to it, I'm sure. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Rob