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kem
07-22-2004, 12:01 AM
Please feel free to comment on all the ways I played these great hands incorrectly..

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Hand 1:

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

So I'm check-raised on the flop with two 8's on the board. My read on BB is that he is super-loose and aggressive. I debated folding vs. calling him down, opted for calling him down.

Turn: (6.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 10.25 BB, between BB and Hero.</font>


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Hand 2:

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

So I 3-bet pre-flop, raise the flop, then get bet into on the turn. I thought for a minute about raising, but decide to just call it down. (Noticing a pattern here? /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

River: (8.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB


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Hand 3:

UTG+1 in this hand is the BB from hand #1. By this point in the evening, I was convinced the guy was playing any 2 cards. I saw him call 2-bets pre-flop with J3o. The guy would play anything, and raise a lot of very bad hands.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Okay, I didn't quite believe his pre-flop cap, so I raised him here. But he 3-bet it, so now I think he really has a hand. Again, I call him down.

Turn: (7.75 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB


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Hand 4:

And then this is the very next hand (perhaps I was on tilt?), but a different opponent.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls,

Flop: (8.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button folds, BB folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

I'm not sure if he has a K here, or just on the heart draw..

River: (7.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Perhaps I should fold here?

Final Pot: 9.25 BB


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Hand 5:

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, CO checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero folds.

MP2 was fairly loose, which made me want to call him. But on the other hand, he was very likely to have A3o or something like that, so I folded. Bad fold?

Final Pot: 6.25 BB
<font color="green">Final Pot: 6.25 BB, won by MP2.</font>


Results:
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Hand 1:
Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows 8c Kh (three of a kind, eights).
Hero shows As Ah (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: BB wins 10.25 BB. </font>

Hand 2:
Results in white below: <font color="white">
MP2 shows Tc Ts (one pair, tens).
Hero shows Ah Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 10.25 BB. </font>

Hand 3:
Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG+1 shows Ks Ac (one pair, aces).
Hero shows Ah Qd (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 11.75 BB. </font>

Hand 4:
Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ad Qs (one pair, fives).
CO shows Kd Th (two pair, kings and fives).
Outcome: CO wins 9.25 BB. </font>

adanthar
07-22-2004, 01:29 AM
Hand 1: 3 bet the flop. If it's capped, you can call down, but you need a much better read than you have to call down after only one raise. Folding is terrible.

Hand 2: Raise the turn. Not really close.

Hand 3: Fine.

Hand 4: Fine. Folding the river is OK too, but your read should be good.

Hand 5: It's a raise or fold situation. If MP3 is that fishy I'd lean towards folding.

sthief09
07-22-2004, 02:09 AM
you need to do a lot more raising and a lot less calling. I think you underplayed every one of these hands. you think one flop raise means your opponent has a monster. I don't even need to look at the results, because I'm sure you won the first 2, and you shouldn't have laid down your kings. it becomes LESS likely he has an A when a 2nd one comes out. it's party 2/4. they suck. my best advice to you is to sack up and stop being pushed around by them.