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tardigrade
07-20-2004, 09:33 PM
I think this one's pretty standard. I'm wondering about preflop and flop play mostly.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks,

Should I raise this PF?

Flop: (5 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

I think this is a pretty obvious raise, since I likely have the best hand and I want to protect it.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Obvious.

River: (6.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Obvious.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 8.50 BB, between Hero and UTG.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (8.50 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG shows Qh Jc (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Hero shows Jh Kh (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.50 BB. </font>

Basically pretty solid?

bisonbison
07-20-2004, 09:34 PM
Raise preflop. Rest is fine.

Calling preflop is profitable, raising preflop is more profitable.

kureido
07-20-2004, 09:36 PM
preflop: on the button, I'd definitely raise this.

I'd play the rest of the hand the same.

-b

deacsoft
07-20-2004, 09:37 PM
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Should I raise this PF?

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Some times, but not too often. Exceptions to this would be if the blind are realy tight and the UTG limper is limping in with hands that should not be played in EP.

I like the raise on the flop.

bisonbison
07-20-2004, 09:39 PM
Some times, but not too often. Exceptions to this would be if the blind are realy tight and the UTG limper is limping in with hands that should not be played in EP.

This is way too passive.

It's a pretty damn strong multiway hand with high card value and excellent position. Given party .5/1, raising this 100% of the time in this situation is pretty close to optimal.

deacsoft
07-20-2004, 10:11 PM
I see your point, and it is well received.

vulturesrow
07-20-2004, 11:21 PM
Im with you Bison..hard to pass this one up for a raise..

Chris

bisonbison
07-21-2004, 02:03 AM
I see your point, and it is well received.

It took me a long time to learn stuff like this, from reading good player's posts and so on, but a lot of this is explicitly spelled out in Ed's new book. If you haven't ordered it, order it now.

It really boils down what you should be worried about in the clearest language of any 2+2 book I've read (and I own about 8 of them).

Yerma
07-21-2004, 02:24 AM
Hi, you said something about "Ed's new book". Who is Ed? What book is this? Thanks in advance for the info!

bisonbison
07-21-2004, 02:29 AM
Ed Miller, Small Stakes Hold'em. Click on the Books link at left.

TrailofTears
07-21-2004, 02:29 AM
Sorry to steal the spotlight bison, but I just thought I'd answer in case you aren't on the forum anymore tonight. Yerma, Ed is Ed Miller, the author of the new 2+2 book Small Stakes Hold'Em . While I don't yet own my copy, I hope to soon as it is supposedly the quintessential book for low (and micro) limit hold'em. Hope this helps!

bisonbison
07-21-2004, 02:29 AM
You have been beaten like a red-headed stepchild.

TrailofTears
07-21-2004, 02:33 AM
Damn you and your "two posts at the same time with me posting in between" ability. It's uncanny, like those X-men.

afk
07-21-2004, 08:41 AM
Other than not raising preflop, I think the rest is fine.

Trix
07-21-2004, 09:14 AM
I allways make this raise.
The only thing I must worry about is KQ,AJ from UTG and he will only have that a % of the time.

deacsoft
07-30-2004, 03:24 PM
I do have the book and am currently reading it, but I only have a total of seven 2+2 books at this time. /images/graemlins/frown.gif