How are these stats?

[Big O]

I have been lurking for a long time and learning a few things hereand there. I have been keep track of my Sit & Go's and would like someone to let me know where do I stand.
The are mostly $30 10-person tourneys

$7,648.00 WIN
($6,256.00) COST
($681.50) FEE
$710.50 NET
35% ITM
11% ROI


1st 38
2nd 32
3rd 16
4th 27
5th 31
6th 33
7th 29
8th 20
9th 5
10th 12
SUM 243

[SumZero]

Other than the fact that the ROI is 10% not 11% that seems ok to me. Not great, but quite likely a winning player.

[Bmurn]

Quite Likely??? He has a positive ROI so no doubt hes a winning player. I think that at that level your stats arent fantastically good, but they are decent. Im in the same position you are right now with ITM 36% and ROI 12% and i think that pretty soon you should notice a boost in your stats after you get that first 300 or so under your belt. I think your doing great! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Big O]

I am net ahead but if you add up the time my hourly rate is low. I feel I am an average player that gets in the money a make a slight profit. I still have difficulty folding hands I think I am beat. Some times I put myself in the ultra-aggressive catagory and thats why I bust out early in the tourneys.

I am curious if others have this type of stats. Other postings would be great.

[SumZero]

Quite likely given the sample size. He obviously was a winning player over that sample. I meant it was quite likely (but by no means definite) that that would continue in to the future.

[yenforyen]

I just figured out my stats and then saw your post. I have very similar results. After 119 30/3 SNGs:

ITM: 36.13%
ROI: 11.55%

1: 17 14.3%
2: 11 9.25%
3: 15 12.6%
4: 17 14.3%
5: 10 8.4%
6: 10 8.4%
7: 16 13.45%
8: 15 12.6%
9: 4 3.36%
10:4 3.36%

I'm a little disappointed by these results. I have an inordinate number of 7th and 8ths which I think is caused by my refusal to lay down hands like AQ off suit in the early rounds when reraised pf. On the bubble I play OK but think I'm too agressive with them early. I would like to get my ITM up to 45% to help my ROI. I'm not a losing player but I haven't gotten over the hump to solid player yet.

[Big O]

I have the same problem sometimes laying down big hands early in the tourney
AQ and the such are great hands down to 5 people when the blinds are 20/40 30/60 range. He can pick up the clinds very easy with a pot size raise.
The only hands I will move all in with early on is AA and KK. I have lost to many times with AK against a big underdog like AQ and AJ.

[cnatto]

Does pokertracker show ROI. I finish in the money about 45% of the time but don't know how to figure ROI. Thanks.

[UncleDuke]

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Does pokertracker show ROI. I finish in the money about 45% of the time but don't know how to figure ROI.

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I don't think it does, but it's easy to get from info it does give you. Just divide total net amount won by total buy-in & fees.

[joker1976]

You have too many 6, 7, 8 finishes. Either you lost too many chip in early levels or you were not playing well at level 3 and 4, but at least you are winning, good work.

[Big O]

the 6th-8th finishes are caused by being overly aggressive and loosing to a slightly better hand and not having enough chips to survive the latter rounds.

[allenciox]

It is hard to tell whether you are doing well or not with only 273 tourneys. If they had been all $30+3, your true ROI is 6% with a 95% confidence interval between -13% and 25%. It is simply too early to tell whether you are doing better than average or not. One thing is clear --- you are not doing spectacularly. I would do some study of your play.

[gergery]

There is something off about your math here.

If they were all $30, then

38 1st = 38*150 = 5700
32 2nds = 32*90 = 2880
16 3rds = 16*60 = 960
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total win $ 9540
total cost (33*243)=8019
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net win $ = 1521
ROI *1521/8019)= 18.9%

You must have been doing significantly better at the lower buyins (or more wins) and worse at the $30s (or more places) to get this lower ROI.

Since my own results are somewhat similar, I’ll guess that the two main things to help you are 1) tightening up and playing better ABC poker when in 5-8th place – playing better hands and folding when beat, and 2) improving your heads up and 3-handed play – getting a 2nd place to become a 1st is worth the same as getting an 8th to a 3rd, and much easier.

--Greg

[allenciox]

whoops, sorry, I entered a number wrong into my spreadsheet, your roi is 19% +-20.7%, so you could be quite good, and you are probably doing better than average.

[Big O]

I would aggree that my play is not great, but at least I am not loosing money. I feel I can do a lot better but I lack the disapline of patience needed to finish in the money. I will work on my game to get this disaline. At least this is good for the UB bonus program. break even and you still make money.

Thanks

Big O

[DonT77]

Last night I calculated my SNG stats for the first time and was surprised to find out how high my ROI was on SNGs (especially compared to MTTs). I've been playing about 1 year, typically $5-20 single or two table.

Total Buy-ins + Fees = $1997
Total Winnings = $3054
Net Profit = $1057
ROI = 52.9%

Is it time for me to move up and play $30 & $50, or is this too small of a sample?

[Big O]

I think if you feel you are a winning player (it looks like you are) and you have enough of a bankroll then play the 30 and 50's. I do not think you need to worry much about playing the higher limits, just make sure you do not get broke because your bank roll was not large enough

[DonT77]

I'm sure this has probably been talked about here before, but since I am fairly new - what is the typical bankroll / buy-in ratio for SNG players? (e.g. $1000 bankroll / $20 buy-in = 50-1 ratio).

[BradleyT]

30 is fine.

[DonT77]

Thanks for the reply Bradley. Do you think 20 or 25 don't leave enough room for variability?

[1 Outer]

A positive ROI is always a good thing. Sounds like you could use a little tightening and may benefit from using a program like Turbo Hold Em or something similar. I'm almost at the level you are but am more of a "steady eddie" type player with small fluctuations either way.

1 Outer

[Big O]

I re-did the numbers. Most of ROI comes from 3 100 tourneys where I came in 1st and 2nd. I have 130+% ROI here
the 30 S+G have a 6% ROI. I need to re-look at my game in order to improve this at the lower stakes